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I tried to make vegan croissants with the following recipe:

  • 120g water
  • 15g wet yeast (I used 7g dried yeast)
  • 250g bread flour
  • 30g sugar
  • 5g salt
  • 50g butter (I used vegan margarine (stork?))

The pic shows what I got (I’ll wait a moment while you laugh - hahaha)

Anyway- can anyone tell me why it happened - I think it’s because I did a straight swap from butter to margarine - and will be something about how the oils react (I’m literally just trying to work it out based on what I’ve read on google so far but I can’t seem to crack it).

Also because I used dry yeast instead of wet but I’ve seen you can make croissants without yeast so doubt it’s that alone... please help!?!

Would it be better to make my own butter for the croissant dough as I can’t seem to find a pre made one that has the same components (ratios) as butter... I’m based in London...

If I should make my own butter- which recipe would you suggest? I’ve tried three now and still no luck... I can’t seem to get the components to combine fully - which leads to solid butter chunks when I truly to use it for laminating the croissant dough...argh!

Rob
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    Welcome to SeasonedAdvice, Lisa! Question: have you before had, or made or seen, vegan croissants that were better than those? Asking because I'm wondering if better croissants with margerine are possible. – FuzzyChef Sep 06 '18 at 22:40
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    Second suggestion: those croissants look like they might have been overproofed. What was your rising and proofing cycle, including temperatures? – FuzzyChef Sep 06 '18 at 22:40
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    Margarine varies quite a bit in qualities, you want one which is hard when cold, Stork is a good choice and you should be able to get reasonable results with it. I would suspect that it's your method which has let you down, but there's not enough detail in your post. – GdD Sep 07 '18 at 08:23
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    @FuzzyChef margarine-based croissants are certainly possible. in this part of Europe many industrial producers of croissants use margarine both for technical reasons (margarine can be highly tuned to the task) and cost. Removing the egg, on the other hand, takes away 1) fats 2) proteins 3) one of the best emulsifiers nature has to offer – Agos Sep 19 '18 at 08:14
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    those honestly look like pretty great for vegan croissants – Sdarb Sep 24 '18 at 17:12
  • I dunno, @GeorgeM - I like the butter flavour in mine, but the texture is the critical thing, I think. – Beejamin Apr 18 '19 at 02:38
  • @FuzzyChef may be on to something when asking for the timing - 7g dry yeast would be 21g wet/cake yeast. That’s 40% more, your timing most likely would have been different. – Stephie Apr 20 '19 at 21:18
  • What's the fatty acid chain length in Vegan margarine? If the fats are too short, you'll get flattened results. – Wayfaring Stranger Apr 20 '19 at 23:23

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If they're your first batch, you did great! Can you show us a cut cross-section? A croissant will have "intra-layer" (inside the dough layers) rise and "inter-layer" (between the layers) rise: The intra-layer rise comes from the yeast and moisture action in the dough itself, and the inter-layer comes from the steam generated as the moisture in the butter/margarine integrates with the dough. I would guess that you didn't get a lot of inter-layer rise, but that's just a guess.

I use the Tartine recipe for croissants (with regular butter), and from memory you work a small amount of flour - say 10% - into your butter before forming the butter sheet. I have seen plenty of recipes that don't do this, but I'm wondering if it would help to stabilise the margarine a bit during the bake.

One other tip, make sure everything stays cold during the laminating. I put my sheet into the freezer for 15 minutes between turns, and I know some methods call for a couple of hours in the fridge (which presumably helps with hydration as well as keeping things hard). If the layers are cold, they stay distinct, which means they separate cleanly during the bake.

Last thing, I think you could bake hotter and perhaps double-glaze (glaze half way through final proof, and then again right before you bake), to bring out the colour on the outside shell.

Good luck!

Beejamin
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You don't have enough fat I think. I would use 2 to 3 times as much if I was making croissants with butter. I don't know how vegan margarine reacts but you may want to at least double the amount.

The fat plays a major role in the fluffy goodness (yes, technical term...) of the texture while the croissants bake, as it traps the water evaporating from your dough in each layer, creating pockets of air, on top of those made by the gas released by the yeast.

Which leads me to the second point : a croissant with no yeast is just a puff pastry shaped nicely. Croissant dough is defined by two things : it's layered, it's prooved. Dry yeast is fine, it will come back to life in your dough, feeding off the water and sugars.

Now, a lot of things come into play when making croissants, especially resting and proofing time. Don't rush things, rest your paton for half an hour between turns (4 simple turns should be enough) and after shaping, and proof until they grew by about 50%. Bake between 170 and 190 degrees Celsius.

As Beejamin said though, if that's your first try they look amazing. Good luck !

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