started programming on a zx80... so know how to write efficient code :) Im not a web developer or programmer by trade, but I have managed to build, maintain, upgrade and run a classic asp / sql server application that handles hundreds of thousands of transactions per year. Its been live for last 8 years; its an internal application with approx. 500 users, runs in multiple countries and is extremely reliable. the application runs diary management, basic CRM, order taking, stock control, reporting, commissions, online credit cards etc. I'm limited to knowledge of classic asp, javascript and sql and I'm really here to learn from all you geniuses as i continue to develop my application and meet challenges along the way... but pleased to share any experience i have if that can be of help.