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I've been brainstorming a webapp idea, something a la Turntable.fm but for LANs, that way all the computers on the SAME network aren't all downloading a song at the same time (killing bandwidth) but rather streaming the music around. The basic functionality would be for the "master" PC (the one with speakers) to play a local song or receive the songs over LAN and then play them.

My question is if there is a way for an HTML5 page (hosted online) to use JS to detect LAN users and communicate to each other directly without the need of any central server? Example case to make it clear:

Office LAN has 2 users, Bob and Bill
Bob enters lanmusic.com
Bill enters lanmusic.com
Internet dies, LAN is fine.
Bob can still detect via the page that local user Bill is on the page too
Bill sends a song to Bob through the page directly
Bob plays song with page's javascript music player

So key points:

  • Javascript/HTML5 only
  • Doesn't depend on internet except for initial load of web app
  • Can detect LAN users, make LAN connections
Brian
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Please read this blog and another article published by W3C with title Web Real-Time Communications

This functionality is still in the process by W3C and the Candidate Release for this functionality will be out in Q4 2012. So it won't be available soon.

For the time being, as an alternative my suggestion are

  1. using the Offline Capabilities of HTML5 as an alternative, which described in this presentation by Google Make it work offline.

  2. using Adobe Cirrus Beta. It can embedded inside your HTML, and it supports P2P conversation and P2P content delivery.

    • Traditional

    Cirrus1 http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/stratus/images/evolution1.jpg

    • Cirrus 1

    Cirrus1 http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/stratus/images/evolution2.jpg

    • Cirrus 2

    Cirrus2 http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/stratus/images/evolution3.jpg

Rudy
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First of all, about every browser will give an error if internet connection is lost. HTML5 can take care if this problem.

But then you can only use client site js, which will not allow to do the things you want to do. Why dont you make a normal desktop application? Me an some friends are making an CLI-based application to que music to a central server, that server has the speakers and will play the music. Our github: https://github.com/Infogroep/mpgc

There are plenty of other aps out there that do the same: check out XBMC

FYI: what you could do as well is create an ad hoc network that doesnt rely on a central server. But that is still something that is beeing researched (i.e. http://soft.vub.ac.be/amop/ )

w3c has an interesting paper on Home Networking Implementation for HTML5 http://www.w3.org/2011/09/webtv/papers/W3C_HNTF_Position_Paper_Sept_2011.pdf

and check out a html5 websocket api http://dev.w3.org/html5/websockets/

rik.vanmechelen
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  • Part of it is for learning experience. As a web designer (HTML/CSS) who is slowly getting more and more into learning JS I thought this would be an interesting project to tackle. Also, I am way more familiar with using the above languages to style a page than build UI's in other languages (although I have been looking). Also, since the office has Mac/PC cross-platform is also important, and a web app seemed like a perfect fit (and no extra installations needed). It seems though that plan won't work. – Brian Dec 21 '11 at 03:35
  • If i remember correctly qt4 supports webkit, which means you can should be able to use your html/css skills to create awesome looking desktop applications. And qt4 has cross platform support for linux/mac/pc. – rik.vanmechelen Dec 21 '11 at 03:44
  • That is precisely what I had downloaded as my backup plan! xD CSS should help in styling app, QML is a Javascript-like alternative to coding in C++, and yes, it's completely cross-platform. Looks like I'll have to branch out with that learning experience then... – Brian Dec 21 '11 at 03:56