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i transcoded flac files to ogg using this command

ffmpeg -i input.flac -c:a libvorbis -b:a 500k  output.ogg

yes i use 500k to keep the highest quality possible, some of the files are ok, but some of them can not be played - Unsupported format or corrupted file says the foobar - also my icecast streamer cant read it. So there is something wrong with the files.

I believed it was due to the high bitrate so I tried

ffmpeg -i input.flac -c:a libvorbis -b:a 320k  output.ogg

the same happened, some files were ok, some were not playable. so I tried again with default using this command

ffmpeg -i input.flac -c:a libvorbis output.ogg

same thing. some files were ok, some were corrupted and not playable.

i have no clue why.

both flac and ogg are in the same family, what happened during the transcoding that it became a corrupted file?

the spectral analysis does not show anything wrong - here it the ogg https://prnt.sc/115zdjl, here is the original flac https://prnt.sc/115zegw

i am really interested what is going on and how to make it work?

can anyone explain?

here is complete log

    C:\Users\lukas.kotatko>ffmpeg -i "\\192.168.0.128\lukas\online radio resources\Atma FM playlists\channel 1\flac lossless\Tuu\One Thousand Years\02 One Thousand Years.flac" -c:a libvorbis -b:a 500k "\\192.168.0.128\lukas\online radio resources\Atma FM playlists\channel 1\flac lossless\Tuu\One Thousand Years\02 One Thousand Years [500k test].ogg"
ffmpeg version 4.3.1 Copyright (c) 2000-2020 the FFmpeg developers
  built with gcc 10.2.1 (GCC) 20200726
  configuration: --enable-gpl --enable-version3 --enable-sdl2 --enable-fontconfig --enable-gnutls --enable-iconv --enable-libass --enable-libdav1d --enable-libbluray --enable-libfreetype --enable-libmp3lame --enable-libopencore-amrnb --enable-libopencore-amrwb --enable-libopenjpeg --enable-libopus --enable-libshine --enable-libsnappy --enable-libsoxr --enable-libsrt --enable-libtheora --enable-libtwolame --enable-libvpx --enable-libwavpack --enable-libwebp --enable-libx264 --enable-libx265 --enable-libxml2 --enable-libzimg --enable-lzma --enable-zlib --enable-gmp --enable-libvidstab --enable-libvmaf --enable-libvorbis --enable-libvo-amrwbenc --enable-libmysofa --enable-libspeex --enable-libxvid --enable-libaom --enable-libgsm --disable-w32threads --enable-libmfx --enable-ffnvcodec --enable-cuda-llvm --enable-cuvid --enable-d3d11va --enable-nvenc --enable-nvdec --enable-dxva2 --enable-avisynth --enable-libopenmpt --enable-amf
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  libavcodec     58. 91.100 / 58. 91.100
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Input #0, flac, from '\\192.168.0.128\lukas\online radio resources\Atma FM playlists\channel 1\flac lossless\Tuu\One Thousand Years\02 One Thousand Years.flac':
  Metadata:
    GENRE           : Tribal / Ambient
    ORGANIZATION    : Waveform Records
    ISRC            : 01101-2
    COMMENT         : US reissue featuring the six original tracks plus two taken from the Invocation album.
    MUSICBRAINZ_RELEASEGROUPID: 737d0518-3dc2-36b3-9419-282c0ade0e50
    ORIGINALDATE    : 1993
    ORIGINALYEAR    : 1993
    RELEASETYPE     : album
    MUSICBRAINZ_ALBUMID: f6339129-f662-43a1-93df-2f20540f73cc
    ALBUM           : One Thousand Years
    BARCODE         : 789060110125
    MUSICBRAINZ_ALBUMARTISTID: e05a42e7-60a3-4d2d-983c-51dc4eb67cad
    album_artist    : Tuu
    ALBUMARTISTSORT : Tuu
    ASIN            : B00005B9TT
    SCRIPT          : Latn
    RELEASESTATUS   : official
    LABEL           : Waveform Records
    CATALOGNUMBER   : 01101-2
    RELEASECOUNTRY  : US
    DATE            : 2001-05-08
    TOTALDISCS      : 1
    disc            : 1
    TOTALTRACKS     : 8
    MEDIA           : CD
    MUSICBRAINZ_TRACKID: aef9824d-e4a6-4ae6-aebe-50a83dd14f71
    TITLE           : One Thousand Years
    MUSICBRAINZ_ARTISTID: e05a42e7-60a3-4d2d-983c-51dc4eb67cad
    ARTIST          : Tuu
    ARTISTSORT      : Tuu
    ARTISTS         : Tuu
    MUSICBRAINZ_RELEASETRACKID: 621c9da6-a85d-3f8b-b485-5e6f74a60cd0
    track           : 2
    TRACKTOTAL      : 8
    DISCTOTAL       : 1
  Duration: 00:08:03.67, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 792 kb/s
    Stream #0:0: Audio: flac, 44100 Hz, stereo, s16
    Stream #0:1: Video: mjpeg (Baseline), yuvj420p(pc, bt470bg/unknown/unknown), 600x600 [SAR 1:1 DAR 1:1], 90k tbr, 90k tbn, 90k tbc (attached pic)
    Metadata:
      comment         : Cover (front)
Stream mapping:
  Stream #0:1 -> #0:0 (mjpeg (native) -> theora (libtheora))
  Stream #0:0 -> #0:1 (flac (native) -> vorbis (libvorbis))
Press [q] to stop, [?] for help
[swscaler @ 0000015307581a00] deprecated pixel format used, make sure you did set range correctly
[ogg @ 00000153073f1680] Frame rate very high for a muxer not efficiently supporting it.
Please consider specifying a lower framerate, a different muxer or -vsync 2
Output #0, ogg, to '\\192.168.0.128\lukas\online radio resources\Atma FM playlists\channel 1\flac lossless\Tuu\One Thousand Years\02 One Thousand Years [500k test].ogg':
  Metadata:
    GENRE           : Tribal / Ambient
    ORGANIZATION    : Waveform Records
    ISRC            : 01101-2
    COMMENT         : US reissue featuring the six original tracks plus two taken from the Invocation album.
    MUSICBRAINZ_RELEASEGROUPID: 737d0518-3dc2-36b3-9419-282c0ade0e50
    ORIGINALDATE    : 1993
    ORIGINALYEAR    : 1993
    RELEASETYPE     : album
    MUSICBRAINZ_ALBUMID: f6339129-f662-43a1-93df-2f20540f73cc
    ALBUM           : One Thousand Years
    BARCODE         : 789060110125
    MUSICBRAINZ_ALBUMARTISTID: e05a42e7-60a3-4d2d-983c-51dc4eb67cad
    album_artist    : Tuu
    ALBUMARTISTSORT : Tuu
    ASIN            : B00005B9TT
    SCRIPT          : Latn
    RELEASESTATUS   : official
    LABEL           : Waveform Records
    CATALOGNUMBER   : 01101-2
    RELEASECOUNTRY  : US
    DATE            : 2001-05-08
    TOTALDISCS      : 1
    disc            : 1
    TOTALTRACKS     : 8
    MEDIA           : CD
    MUSICBRAINZ_TRACKID: aef9824d-e4a6-4ae6-aebe-50a83dd14f71
    TITLE           : One Thousand Years
    MUSICBRAINZ_ARTISTID: e05a42e7-60a3-4d2d-983c-51dc4eb67cad
    ARTIST          : Tuu
    ARTISTSORT      : Tuu
    ARTISTS         : Tuu
    MUSICBRAINZ_RELEASETRACKID: 621c9da6-a85d-3f8b-b485-5e6f74a60cd0
    track           : 2
    TRACKTOTAL      : 8
    DISCTOTAL       : 1
    encoder         : Lavf58.45.100
    Stream #0:0: Video: theora (libtheora), yuv420p(progressive), 600x600 [SAR 1:1 DAR 1:1], q=2-31, 200 kb/s, 90k fps, 90k tbn, 90k tbc (attached pic)
    Metadata:
      DESCRIPTION     : Cover (front)
      encoder         : Lavc58.91.100 libtheora
      GENRE           : Tribal / Ambient
      ORGANIZATION    : Waveform Records
      ISRC            : 01101-2
      MUSICBRAINZ_RELEASEGROUPID: 737d0518-3dc2-36b3-9419-282c0ade0e50
      ORIGINALDATE    : 1993
      ORIGINALYEAR    : 1993
      RELEASETYPE     : album
      MUSICBRAINZ_ALBUMID: f6339129-f662-43a1-93df-2f20540f73cc
      ALBUM           : One Thousand Years
      BARCODE         : 789060110125
      MUSICBRAINZ_ALBUMARTISTID: e05a42e7-60a3-4d2d-983c-51dc4eb67cad
      ALBUMARTIST     : Tuu
      ALBUMARTISTSORT : Tuu
      ASIN            : B00005B9TT
      SCRIPT          : Latn
      RELEASESTATUS   : official
      LABEL           : Waveform Records
      CATALOGNUMBER   : 01101-2
      RELEASECOUNTRY  : US
      DATE            : 2001-05-08
      TOTALDISCS      : 1
      DISCNUMBER      : 1
      TOTALTRACKS     : 8
      MEDIA           : CD
      MUSICBRAINZ_TRACKID: aef9824d-e4a6-4ae6-aebe-50a83dd14f71
      TITLE           : One Thousand Years
      MUSICBRAINZ_ARTISTID: e05a42e7-60a3-4d2d-983c-51dc4eb67cad
      ARTIST          : Tuu
      ARTISTSORT      : Tuu
      ARTISTS         : Tuu
      MUSICBRAINZ_RELEASETRACKID: 621c9da6-a85d-3f8b-b485-5e6f74a60cd0
      TRACKNUMBER     : 2
      TRACKTOTAL      : 8
      DISCTOTAL       : 1
    Stream #0:1: Audio: vorbis (libvorbis), 44100 Hz, stereo, fltp (16 bit), 500 kb/s
    Metadata:
      encoder         : Lavc58.91.100 libvorbis
      GENRE           : Tribal / Ambient
      ORGANIZATION    : Waveform Records
      ISRC            : 01101-2
      DESCRIPTION     : US reissue featuring the six original tracks plus two taken from the Invocation album.
      MUSICBRAINZ_RELEASEGROUPID: 737d0518-3dc2-36b3-9419-282c0ade0e50
      ORIGINALDATE    : 1993
      ORIGINALYEAR    : 1993
      RELEASETYPE     : album
      MUSICBRAINZ_ALBUMID: f6339129-f662-43a1-93df-2f20540f73cc
      ALBUM           : One Thousand Years
      BARCODE         : 789060110125
      MUSICBRAINZ_ALBUMARTISTID: e05a42e7-60a3-4d2d-983c-51dc4eb67cad
      ALBUMARTIST     : Tuu
      ALBUMARTISTSORT : Tuu
      ASIN            : B00005B9TT
      SCRIPT          : Latn
      RELEASESTATUS   : official
      LABEL           : Waveform Records
      CATALOGNUMBER   : 01101-2
      RELEASECOUNTRY  : US
      DATE            : 2001-05-08
      TOTALDISCS      : 1
      DISCNUMBER      : 1
      TOTALTRACKS     : 8
      MEDIA           : CD
      MUSICBRAINZ_TRACKID: aef9824d-e4a6-4ae6-aebe-50a83dd14f71
      TITLE           : One Thousand Years
      MUSICBRAINZ_ARTISTID: e05a42e7-60a3-4d2d-983c-51dc4eb67cad
      ARTIST          : Tuu
      ARTISTSORT      : Tuu
      ARTISTS         : Tuu
      MUSICBRAINZ_RELEASETRACKID: 621c9da6-a85d-3f8b-b485-5e6f74a60cd0
      TRACKNUMBER     : 2
      TRACKTOTAL      : 8
      DISCTOTAL       : 1
frame=    1 fps=0.1 q=-0.0 Lsize=   25860kB time=00:08:03.66 bitrate= 438.0kbits/s speed=44.6x
video:8kB audio:25721kB subtitle:0kB other streams:0kB global headers:7kB muxing overhead: 0.511663%
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what I am trying to achieve is to stream hi res lossless flac files. I seem to get be getting there.

this command ffmpeg -i input.flac output.ogg makes a lossy ogg file. it shrinks the size drastically and produces a file with a bitrate around 128 k. the spectral analysis shows details https://prnt.sc/117904c - quite terrible. all above 17 kHz is gone forever + other "non-hearable" sound is gone forever as well. Even with -b:a option ffmpeg -i input.flac -b:a 320k output.ogg it will still be lossy file, just with a higher bitrate. maximum -b:a is 500k as far as i know.. already pretty accurate, but still a lossy file.

but this command ffmpeg -i input.flac -c:a libvorbis -c:a copy -map 0:a output.ogg actually works. It wraps flac to ogg container so that it is better for streaming, keeping all the lossless quality. See Why is FLAC Streaming over HTTP done with Ogg encapsulation instead of natively?

I seem to be finally figuring out how to prepare flac files to lossless hi res stream. all it needs is to wrap them into ogg container with this command.

ffmpeg -i input.flac -c:a libvorbis -c:a copy -map 0:a output.ogg

the spectral analysis proves that it actually is the lossless file even though it has .ogg extension: here is the wrapper ogg flac file https://prnt.sc/1178jp4 and here is the original flac file https://prnt.sc/1178l8h.

now I need to test it with multiple files and see how Icecast server handles the lossless stream

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  • ok so another update here.. seems like Icecast cannot read such a hi-res file.. giving this error. `EROR input/input_calculate_ogg_sleep Timing control: can't determine sample rate for input, not Vorbis.` but they are ogg files and they can be easily played in any player, so what is the problem.. ? who knows? – experimental Apr 08 '21 at 12:18