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I found that in new dev_appserver dubugging is not possible and old_app_devserver need to be used.

As I found in previous version 1.7.x is because probable invalid use of stdin and stdout - what is changed in 1.8.x or still the same problem. PyDev Breakpoints in App Engine 1.7.6 broken?

What is other debug possibility options (IDEs) mean setting breakpoints not logging only.

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    I use Boa constructor with remote debugging, with the new dev server. There is a new command line for the dev server `---python_startup_script` which is run prior to server startup and is not sandboxed. I know nothing about PyDev remote debugging but this is where I would investigate it. – Tim Hoffman Jul 03 '13 at 09:27
  • PyDev is excellent plugin for Eclipse for Python development which it use `pydev debugger: starting`. Many people using PyDev since it allow work with extreme large code bases (500k lines) - it is need support for this. – Chameleon Jul 03 '13 at 20:03
  • I will probably never use Eclipse (thats why I don't know anything about PyDev), I am always running on low power low memory VM's. Not sure why no one has done it for PyDev yet. It should be do-able. It took all of 15 minutes to get it working with Boa, so give it a try. – Tim Hoffman Jul 04 '13 at 01:21
  • Eclipse is very powerfull and I am need it for large project. Cost of migration whole project it to high to make try - including migration custom plugins. I can check BOA with new project. Looking on screenshots I am not sure if it can handle 500k lines of code and 1k files - maybe I am wrong I need check it. – Chameleon Jul 04 '13 at 08:38
  • BTW can you paste link to BOA constructor - I found this but it looks that project is dead http://www.ohloh.net/p/boa-constructor/commits/summary. – Chameleon Jul 04 '13 at 08:46
  • https://bitbucket.org/cwt/boa-constructor Boa Constructor was forked late last year. And yes it doesn't get a lot of love. – Tim Hoffman Jul 04 '13 at 11:13
  • I am not suggesting your change from eclipse for your project. You could in a pinch just use it for debugging, if you can't get PyDev working, though I am not sure why anyone hasn't bothered sorting it out yet. The largest project I have in Boa is about 500 source files and 260k lines of code - no problems there ;-) – Tim Hoffman Jul 04 '13 at 11:14
  • Oh and one last thing, Boa is actually useable on a raspberrypi with 256MB ;-) – Tim Hoffman Jul 04 '13 at 11:25
  • https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/google-appengine/boa/google-appengine/-m00Qz4Vc7U/GkBiH1hWK8cJ – Tim Hoffman Jul 04 '13 at 11:35
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    Just to note, PyDev 2.8.0 is now supporting the new hooks on Google App Engine, so, debugging should be working again. See release details at: http://pydev.org/ – Fabio Zadrozny Jul 25 '13 at 20:19

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