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On Real Time with Bill Maher (aired March 30, 2012), host Bill Maher said:

There are now more guns in America than there are people...

(I'm guessing he is talking about "civilian firearms ")

From Wikipedia - Number of guns per capita by country (a section which was since removed):

Country Guns per 100 residents (2007) Rank (2007)
United States 88.8 1
Yemen 54.8 2
Switzerland 45.7 3
Finland 45.3 4
Serbia 37.8 5
Cyprus 36.4 6
Saudi Arabia 25.0 7
Iraq 34.2 8
Uruguay 31.8 9
Sweden 31.6 10

The above figure from 2007 is close to what Bill Maher claims, but a quick google search yielded no results for more recent figures. This made me wonder where he got his info from.

My question:
Are there now more guns (civilian firearms) in America than people?

Laurel
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Oliver_C
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  • Those are the Small Arms Survey's numbers for privately-owned firearms (including those owned by gangs and militias). Considering that 26% of small arms worldwide are owned by states, there almost certainly were more guns than people in the US in 2007. But I can't say whether there are more *privately owned* firearms than people today. – Chel Mar 31 '12 at 23:14
  • I note that Switzerland rates highly on the list, but wonder how they counted the hundreds of thousands of [privately-held, government-issued rifles](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_politics_in_Switzerland). – Oddthinking Mar 31 '12 at 23:36
  • @Oddthinking The SAS notes a couple of times that Switzerland is one of its most problematic countries, as estimates differ by an order of magnitude. What is known is that of the ~40% of citizens issued a rifle at age 20, about 60% keep it after age 30, and these rifles are used in 40% of firearm murders but 70% of *total* suicides. In any case the SAS's numbers *attempt* to include these rifles, which account for (very roughly) half of gun ownership in the country. – Chel Apr 01 '12 at 00:10
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    Daisy "rifles" are air guns. These are **not firearms**. Linked suggest that these are .22 guns, while the advert clearly says ".22 pellets". – vartec Apr 01 '12 at 14:46
  • Same goes for Crosman advert mentioned in the article. – vartec Apr 01 '12 at 14:53
  • @vartec - Sorry for the confusion. The picture is supposed to be tongue-in-cheek. The link next to it is __not__ meant to be a resource link for the claim (after all, it's a 40 year old ad), but merely a source link for the picture. – Oliver_C Apr 02 '12 at 10:34
  • @Oliver_C: still, it is advert of toy guns, so really it shouldn't be used in this context. – vartec Apr 02 '12 at 10:40
  • I do no think he is talking about just civilian firearms. Daisy bb and pellet guns are weapons. They fire bullets and can kill. I wonder if paint ball guns are included here as well. – Chad Apr 02 '12 at 16:42
  • Would antique firearms (or modern reproductions) such as flint-locks and percussion lock muskets also be included in that figure as well? – rjzii Apr 02 '12 at 17:37
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    @Chad: BB gun cannot kill a human, unless you grab it by the barrel and smack someone in the back of his head. And it's most definitively not a firearm. – vartec Apr 03 '12 at 14:09
  • @Vartec http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=7985035 ... and http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=18&ved=0CGEQFjAHOAo&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww2.godanriver.com%2Fnews%2F2011%2Fjul%2F11%2Fteen-killed-bb-gun-rockingham-police-report-ar-1165788%2F&ei=Qyx7T5DiBpKe8gT9te39BA&usg=AFQjCNHuv38azwKvU0tfCFwveTzgma8GAA and http://www.wlky.com/r/22840472/detail.html ... yes it can. And there are some very lethal pellet guns. I put a deep dent into 1/4inch steel tilling blade once. – Chad Apr 03 '12 at 17:00

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Maybe

There are no firm statistics for the amount of guns in the US at any one time. Estimates are based on surveys to gun owners, estimates of illegal guns and guns imported into and manufactured in the USA.

The issue also gets blurred if you choose to consider military bases or overseas territories as part of the USA and how broadly you want to define gun. For example, are self-made guns to be included?

According to the US Census, the population of the USA is about 311 million people.

Most reliable or semi-reliable estimates I can find for the amount of firearms in the US seem to put the number at between 200 and 300 million.

According to this Reuters report which quotes from a 2007 survey (I will link to it when I find it), U.S. citizens own 270 million firearms which would be less than the total population of the US.

According to data from the General Social Survey collected in 2004, there were approximately 44 million firearm owners with Americans owning 192 million firearms.[1]

A National Survey on Private Ownership and Use of Firearms from 1994 also put the amount of firearms privately owned by Americans at 192 million.[2]

According to statistics from the NRA, it is estimated the total number of firearms owned by Americans in 2010 is about 300 million.[3]

It is not clear to me how these estimates are calculated, if they included seized guns, or whether they account for smuggled or self-made guns.

While it does not seem unreasonable to me that the number of guns in the USA could surpass the number of people living there, at the moment, the figures we have would indicate that this is not the case. These figures are restricted to the census population and privately owned firearms.

If we consider:

  • Firearms used by police and military
  • Unregistered firearms
  • Self-made firearms

The number of firearms in the US could easily surpass the population.

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  • The Reuters figure comes from the "Small Arms Survey" (linked in my question). The most interesting to me is the "300 million" figure from the NRA. Trying to track down the original source let me to their [Firearms Fact Card 2012](http://www.nraila.org/news-issues/fact-sheets/2012/nra-ila-firearms-fact-card-2012.aspx), which says: __Approaching 300 million ... The number of (privately owned) firearms rises over 4 million annually__ – Oliver_C Apr 02 '12 at 10:47
  • @Oliver_C I had another link which also put the number at about 300 million, but have been unable to find it again. It was from a hunting association or something. I will try and find more links...I'm surprised the ATF or FBI did not have easy statistics available. – Sonny Ordell Apr 03 '12 at 00:36
  • There are generally no records kept when privately-owned firearms are discarded or destroyed, and not all firearm owners will admit to survey-takers that they own guns. The number of commercially-produced firearms sold to Americans since 1968 would be an upper bound on the number of commercially-produced post-1968 firearms owned by Americans, but there's no good way to estimate the number destroyed since then, which would be necessary to know how many still exist – supercat Jan 23 '17 at 19:48
  • And there's an estimate of up to 600 million. Mentioned here as the primary source seems to be down: https://bearingarms.com/bob-o/2016/10/25/told-600-million-guns-united-states/ – Loren Pechtel Jul 16 '20 at 04:43
  • Edit: Archive of the primary source: https://web.archive.org/web/20190205130812/http://weaponsman.com/?p=33875 – Loren Pechtel Jul 19 '20 at 04:07