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Do we have "secret" "bundles of nerves" — pressure points — which, when struck with a particular Karate move, kill us?

Wikipedia is skeptic but see this History Channel documentary (only the first minute is really necessary for the claim): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1-4LqEIP0o

What I dispute is the existence of pressure points that when manipulated with specific Karate moves cause death without deadly force. I do not dispute that there are sensitive points in our body, or that there are deadly Karate moves.

Are "Touch of Death" moves fiction?

Beofett
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  • There are certainly a few places where relatively little pressure can make a strong person jump half out of their skin. Done it and been done to. Some are more effective than others and some are easier to hit than others. None that I know are really disabling and most are very hard to hit in the chaos of a sparring match much less a full on fight. – dmckee --- ex-moderator kitten Mar 13 '12 at 23:49
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    @dmckee I know. And testicles. :-) – Sklivvz Mar 13 '12 at 23:52
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    @Sklivvz the mammary glands are also pretty sensitive – ratchet freak Mar 13 '12 at 23:54
  • if it were secret and I knew about it, I wouldn't be allowed to tell you, would I? – jwenting Mar 14 '12 at 06:20
  • I think punching somebody in the temple (the area near the eye) can kill him. Also there is a website dedicated to one puck kills http://www.onepunchcankill.qld.gov.au/ – Vahan Lcf Harutyunyan Mar 14 '12 at 06:38
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    Not sure about killing, but "The celiac plexus is often popularly referred to as the solar plexus, generally in the context of a blow to the stomach. In many of these cases, it is not the celiac plexus itself being referred to, but rather the region where it is located. A blow to the stomach can upset this region. This can cause the diaphragm to spasm, resulting in difficulty in breathing—a sensation commonly known as "getting the wind knocked out of you"" – vartec Mar 14 '12 at 10:59
  • Do you count contrecoup injuries from a severe head blow (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contrecoup) or neck blow (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hangman's_fracture)? What do you count as a 'bundle of nerves'? Are you assuming all nerves south of the cervical spine? – mmr Mar 14 '12 at 17:33
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    Note that the History Channel should be renamed into the HerpDerp Channel. The pressure points are probably safety measures installed by ancient aliens so they could knock us out if needed... – Lagerbaer Mar 14 '12 at 21:35
  • I was just thinking of the move done by Xena Warrior Princess the other day, and whether it was real: http://whoosh.org/issue22/plunket1.html#pressure – Andrew Grimm Mar 15 '12 at 11:04
  • The video referred to in the original question has been removed. –  Oct 22 '12 at 13:22
  • I replaced the dead link with a video segment that establishes the claim. However, the version I found seems to have some good information on a potential answer, so I have referenced it below, as well. – Beofett May 21 '13 at 15:05
  • If Erle Montaigue is the most notable exponent of "Dim Mak", perhaps the "notable claims" about it should include or reference those made on http://www.taijiworld.com/pressure-point-fighting.html – ChrisW May 21 '13 at 16:04

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Do we have "secret" "bundles of nerves" — pressure points — which, when struck with a particular Karate move, kill us?

The answer appears to be "no", although the research is inconclusive.

Dr. Michael Kelly has researched the legendary "Dim Mak" martial arts death touch, and, according to this video, it appears that his primary theories are that the supposed "death touch" effects were likely applications of pressure upon the carotid sinus.

Another possible explanation presented in the video (Death Weapons of the East, part of the History Channel's Ancient Discoveries series) is an attack on the spleen. If the spleen is damaged, it would undergo internal bleeding, until it ruptured, at which point it would potentially lead to rapid death, possibly days after the initial injury.

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    According to the Wikipedia article, the literal translation is "press artery": `Dim Mak (simplified Chinese: 点脉; traditional Chinese: 點脈; pinyin: diǎnmài; literally "press artery"; Jyutping: dim2 mak6), alternatively diǎnxué (simplified Chinese: 点穴; traditional Chinese: 點穴)` – ChrisW May 21 '13 at 15:18
  • Erle Montaigue on Dim Mak says that the following are dangerous techniques which you must not practice on your martial arts students: a) concussion by blows to the head; b) upward strike to jaw causing head to throw back and pinch the spine; c) attacking the carotid sinus, i.e. the carotid artery, which can be fatal if damaged; d) attacking internal organs such as the spleen. A more contentious part of his message may be that by striking nerves you can evoke the same body reaction ("if the gall bladder is in pain it will cause low blood pressure") as if a corresponding organ had been attacked. – ChrisW May 21 '13 at 16:48