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Sidney Powell was recently quoted as saying,

"The Dominion Voting Systems, the Smartmatic technology software, and the software that goes in other computerized voting systems here as well, not just Dominion, were created in Venezuela at the direction of Hugo Chavez" Powell declared.

Is any part of this true?

Evan Carroll
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    @WeatherVane Stay on topic please, the question does not mention anything about republicans, conservatives, democrats, etc. – pipe Nov 20 '20 at 16:45
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    Relevant answer might also note whether those voting systems were even used in the jurisdictions where the vote counts are being disputed; the linked story mentions this in passing without detailing. – jeffronicus Nov 20 '20 at 17:24
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    @WeatherVane No, skeptics is here to discuss _specific_ claims, not twist them into whatever the reader wants to believe they mean. Anything else is bound to fail. This question does not ask about the headline. – pipe Nov 20 '20 at 17:24
  • I was thinking the right form for this answer would be "the only place Venezuela or Chavez is mentioned in an official capacity is with this filing by Trump in Pennsylvania..." Because I just want to know the connection here to be honest. I'm not expecting this to be true. I'm open to it being true. But I'm more expecting the Venezuelan government to have paid for an assessment of how voting technology can be used in rural areas, and then to have rejected its use -- and for something like that to the basis of this claim. – Evan Carroll Nov 20 '20 at 17:33
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    The link you quote comprehensively debunks the claim. – DJClayworth Nov 20 '20 at 17:35
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    @EvanCarroll The link says that the only evidence Sidney Powell has for the claim about Hugo Chavez is "a heavily redacted affidavit from an anonymous former Venezuelan military official who saw Chavez many years ago playing around with a supposedly rigged Smartmatic machine.". That's the totality of the actual evidence. – DJClayworth Nov 20 '20 at 17:51
  • [here's the affidavit](https://mobile.twitter.com/ByronYork/status/1329879883993010177) if anyone wants to use it to write an answer. – ff524 Nov 20 '20 at 20:49
  • Thanks a ton @ff524. That's exactly what I wanted. I've self-answered it. – Evan Carroll Nov 20 '20 at 21:46
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    I think it is interesting to note that shortly after this statement, President Donald Trump announced that Sidney Powell was not affiliated with him in any way and not part of any of his legal teams. You have to let that sink in: even Trump thought this conspiracy theory was too crazy! – Jörg W Mittag Nov 27 '20 at 22:49
  • @JörgWMittag nah, she was an overachiver and he doesn't like to be over shadowed. – Evan Carroll Nov 28 '20 at 18:57

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It seems the root of this claim can be found in "Exhibit N" of the Lin Wood v. Raffensperger case in Georgia. "Exhibit N" is an affidavit labeled "Redacted Declaration"

The contents of it that pertain to the Venezuela/Chavez connection are as follows,

  1. Importantly, I was a direct witness to the creation and operation of an electronic voting system in a conspiracy between a company known as Smartmatic and the leaders of conspiracy with the Venezuelan government. This conspiracy specifically involved President Hugo Chavez Frias, the person in charge of the National Electoral Council named Jorge Rodriguez, and principals, representatives, and personnel from Smartmatic which included. The purpose of this conspiracy was to create and operate a voting system that could change the votes in elections from votes against persons running the Venezuelan government to votes in their favor in order to maintain control of the government.

And then again,

  1. After passage of the referendum, President Chavez instructed me to make arrangements for him to meet with Jorge Rodriguez, then President of the National Electoral Council, and three executives from Smartmatic. Among the three Smartmatic representatives were [REDACTED]. President Chavez had multiple meetings with Rodriguez and the Smartmatic team at which I was present. In the first of four meetings, Jorge Rodriguez promoted the idea to create software that would manipulate elections. Chavez was very excited and made it clear that he would provide whatever Smartmatic needed. He wanted them immediately to create a voting system which would ensure that any time anything was going to be voted on the voting system would guarantee results that Chavez wanted. Chavez offered Smartmatic many inducements, including large sums of money, for Smartmatic to create or modify the voting system so that it would guarantee Chavez would win every election cycle. Smartmatic’s team agreed to create such a system and did so.

And lastely,

  1. Chavez was most insistent that Smartmatic design the system in a way that the system could change the vote of each voter without being detected. He wanted the software itself to function in such a manner that if the voter were to place their thumb print or fingerprint on a scanner, then the thumbprint would be tied to a record of the voter’s name and identity as having voted, but that voter would not tracked to the changed vote. He made it clear that the system would have to be setup to not leave any evidence of the changed vote for a specific voter and that there would be no evidence to show and nothing to contradict that the name or the fingerprint or thumb print was going with a changed vote. Smartmatic agreed to create such a system and produced the software and hardware that accomplished that result for President Chavez.

Note this a personal abridgment of the claims with Venezuela. I suggest reading the entire affidavit if interested. The testimony of Sidney Powell does accurately reflect the description given in the affidavit.


I don't see how any of these claims can be validated without an inquiry and the government coercing the production of relevant documents. However, according to Reuters only Los Angeles County used Smartmatic software, so it seems that even if Smartmatic were some communist conspiracy it still couldn't have impacted the outcome of the presidential election.


Thanks to ff524 for his contribution of the link.

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    The fact that electronic voting systems can be hacked and manipulated is well known (as are fraudulent elections in Venezuela). But the details of how the system described here work do not even match how US voting systems work nor does this suggest anything at all about US elections (which Trump's own head of cyber security said were very secure). Sounds like the entire affidavit is *irrelevant* to claims about US elections. – matt_black Nov 20 '20 at 23:37
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    [According to Reuters](https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-smartmatic-ceo-biden-team-d/fact-checksmartmatic-ceo-is-not-on-bidensteamsmartmatic-software-is-not-on-dominion-voting-machines-idUSKBN2801ZJ) only Los Angeles County used Smartmatic software, so it seems that even if Smartmatic were some communist conspiracy it still couldn't have impacted the outcome of the presidential election. – Marc Nov 21 '20 at 01:25
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    @MarcPaul I've updated the article with your link and statement. Nice addition. – Evan Carroll Nov 21 '20 at 17:42
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    "The testimony of Sidney Powell does accurately reflect the description given in the affidavit." I don't see how - the question quoted Sidney Powell as saying that "Dominion" and unspecified "other" voting systems were created at Chavez's direction. Is there anything in the affidavit to support that? – ff524 Nov 22 '20 at 04:31
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    FunFact™: Pretty much all of the localities that used Dominion Voting Systems had election results that… #drumroll# Went in favor of Trump [Swing-state counties that used Dominion voting machines mostly voted for Trump](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/12/01/swing-state-counties-that-used-dominion-voting-machines-mostly-voted-trump/). Yet Trump lost. How can those systems be hackable *against* Trump when they were all used in places that went for Trump? – Giacomo1968 Dec 09 '20 at 02:51
  • @Giacomo1968 just imagine how much Trump have won by if Dominion voting machines weren't diminishing his massive victory. – Evan Carroll Dec 09 '20 at 02:54