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WikiLeaks hosts an alleged email exchange involving Tony Podesta, John Podesta and Marina Abramovic. In the exchange, Marina invites the Podesta brothers to partake in what is referred to as a "Spirit Cooking" dinner. Quoting the WikiLeaks document:

From:podesta@podesta.com
To: john.podesta@gmail.com
Date: 2015-06-28 01:48
Subject: Fwd: Dinner

Are you in NYC Thursday July 9
Marina wants you to come to dinner
Mary?

Sent from my iPhone
Begin forwarded message:

From: Marina Abramovic
<marinaxabramovic@gmail.commailto:marinaxabramovic@gmail.com>
Date: June 28, 2015 at 2:35:08 AM GMT+2
To: Tony Podesta <podesta@podesta.commailto:podesta@podesta.com>
Subject: Dinner

Dear Tony,

I am so looking forward to the Spirit Cooking dinner at my place. Do you think you will be able to let me know if your brother is joining?

All my love, Marina

--
ABRAMOVIC LLC

Many YouTube channels assume this email exchange to be authentic, sometimes presenting it as evidence for their own conspiracy theories.

Is this email exchange authentic?

Shadur
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    I have edited to remove the subjective and spurious interpretations. Even the idea that the emails are unusual is subjective. (I see absolutely nothing out of the ordinary in mentioning your kids will be at a family pool party, or using hyperbole in what is obviously a joke about hoping for good luck - but I obviously can't provide empirical evidence to prove it is a joke) – Oddthinking Oct 04 '20 at 04:36
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    I’m voting to close this question because it's a ramshackle ramble of conspiracy theories that fails to stay on one topic for more than a paragraph and doesn't seem to be much more than a stack of links to youtube channels of conspiracy theorists. Again. – Shadur Oct 04 '20 at 09:02
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    Also, as it stands right now you spend the first 7 paragraphs describing random and entirely unproven assertions about email exchanges, and then ask if HC and JP were "involved in email exchanges". Either you're really bad at staying on topic, or you're deliberately trying to frame the question in order to get an answer you can then misconstruct as proof of guilt to the implied assertions. If the former, please take some time to try and figure out what exactly you want to ask before posting; if the latter, please stop wasting our time with bad faith questions. – Shadur Oct 04 '20 at 09:36
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    The question of whether these emails were written by the person claimed is so uninteresting as to make them off topic. We are not here to fact check the provenance of every email organizing a family pool party, and I don't see any evidence that they are anything else. xmb, I'm pretty sure that if I had access to all your emails, and the ability to state that some words had secret meanings, I could prove that you were an Islamic terrorist - or anything else I liked. – DJClayworth Oct 04 '20 at 13:36
  • @Shadur so your whole reason to close the queston is an adhominen attack against the claimants, rather than adressing the actual claim. Firstly, to be on-topic the claimants do not need to be reputable, just notable. Secondly, the question is deemed on-topic by Oddthinking, who has about 2 orders of magnitude more reputation than you. Thirdly, the claim is very clear: the 3 claimants are showing email exchanges taken from WikiLeaks where John Podesta and Hillary Clinton appear as recipients or senders. Was that truly the case? –  Oct 04 '20 at 15:14
  • @DJClayworth uninteresting is opinion-based. Or do you browse all SkepticsSE questions and every time you find something uninteresting you vote to close "as uninteresting"? –  Oct 04 '20 at 15:17
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    Not just "uninteresting" - trivial, irrelevant and pointless. The people in question have written millions of emails. These are no different, and not worth the time and effort of this site to verify. Also it is hard to escape the suspicion that there is an ulterior motive with this question, that you want to be able to propagate these horrific and ridiculous allegations, adding that "Skeptics.se has verified that the emails are authentic". Or more simply that you are using this site as a link farm to spread the message of this conspiracy theory. We won't be used like that. – DJClayworth Oct 04 '20 at 16:19
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    Do you even realize how spectacularly uninteresting this email exchange becomes once you strip out all the hysterical commentary from conspiracy theories? I'm fairly sure I remember the phrasing "spirit cooking dinner" from way before, associated with Southern-style cooking, but it's currently *impossible* to find any useful references because the conspiracy theorists have absolutely swamped the page rankings on google and DDG. – Shadur Oct 05 '20 at 07:48

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Marina Abramović - the performance artist in question - apparently confirmed the authenticity of the dinner invitation to the NYT:

Ms. Abramovic said the “Spirit Cooking” dinner, which had the same name as a book and a performance in which she painted absurd recipes in blood on the walls of an Italian gallery, actually involved her cooking a few simple dishes for about 20 people who had donated to her art institute.

“We had lots of fun,” she said. “There was no human blood, or baby serving, or sex orgies.” So when the conspiracy theories started popping up, Ms. Abramovic said, she thought it was “just insane.”

The interview is from 2020 and mirrors what Abramović said in 2016, as well as the kickstarter page for which the dinner was one of the possible rewards:

In an interview with Art News, Abramovic said that the dinner was “just a normal menu, which I call spirit cooking. There was no blood, no anything else. We just call things funny names, that’s all,” and that the dinner was a reward for donors to a recent Kickstarter campaign.

Here is how the dinner event — a reward for people who pledged $10,000 to her campaign — was described on her Kickstarter page:

A dinner night with Marina during which she will teach you and other backers at this level how to cook a series of traditional soups, which you will all enjoy together. The night will end with the making of a golden ball, a recipe given to Marina in a Tibetan monastery. Marina will bring to this dinner a Spirit Cooking memento for each backer to keep.

While this isn't hard proof that the emails have not been altered - or invented -, her description of inviting people to her home to cook for them does match the content of the emails.

Note that the email exchange was between Tony Podesta and Abramović. John Podesta never responded to the invitation, and did not attend the dinner.

tim
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