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In Japan it is very common to see signs on trains that encourage/require you to turn off your phone on trains, or just near the priority seating areas. The thinking goes that the signals somehow affect passengers with pacemakers and potentially break/stop them.

Is there any truth to this? Everyone seems to ignore the rules and I have never heard of any incidents related to it.

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Yes, in some cases. The risk seems to depend on the cell phone and pacemaker involved. Apparently there's no conflict in some cases, while there can be in other cases. The American Heart Association (ACA) does warn that some newer cell phones can make pacemakers less reliable.

Given these risks, it makes sense that Japanese trains - which are notorious for having people cramped together - would warn about cell phones, as there's a lot of potential for someone with a pacemaker to end up smooshed against someone with a cell phone at minimal distance.

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From "Interference with Pacemakers and Other Medical Devices", FDA:

Potential interference

Radiofrequency energy (RF) from cell phones can interact with some electronic devices. [...] [A recent product validation standard] will allow manufacturers to ensure that [new] cardiac pacemakers and defibrillators are safe from cell phone EMI. [...]

Precautions for pacemaker wearers

If EMI were to occur, it could affect a pacemaker in one of three ways:

  • Stopping the pacemaker from delivering the stimulating pulses that regulate the heart's rhythm

  • Causing the pacemaker to deliver the pulses irregularly

  • Causing the pacemaker to ignore the heart's own rhythm and deliver pulses at a fixed rate

But based on current research, cell phones would not seem to pose a significant health problem for the vast majority of pacemaker wearers. Still, people with pacemakers may want to take some simple precautions to be sure that their cell phones don't cause a problem.

  • Hold the phone to the ear opposite the side of the body where the pacemaker is implanted to add some extra distance between the pacemaker and the phone

  • Avoid placing a turned-on phone next to the pacemaker implant (e.g. don’t carry the phone in a shirt or jacket pocket directly over the pacemaker)

From "Devices that may Interfere with Pacemakers", American Heart Association (AHA):

Learn more about devices that may interfere with a pacemaker:

Devices with risk

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Cell phones: Currently, phones available in the United States (less than 3 watts) don't appear to damage pulse generators or affect how the pacemaker works.

  • Technology is rapidly changing as the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) makes new frequencies available.

  • Newer cellphones using these new frequencies might make pacemakers less reliable.

  • A group of cellphone companies is studying that possibility.

  • Bluetooth® headsets do not appear to interfere with pacemakers.

Here, the ACA lists cell phones as a "device with risk". They also warn that newer cellphones might "make pacemakers less reliable".

From "The effects of mobile phones on pacemaker function" (2004):

4. Discussion

This is a clinical study trying to identify the effects of electromagnetic field generated by mobile phones that are currently used worldwide on transvenous permanent pacemaker function. In our study, we demonstrated the presence of such an effect without any doubt and found the total adverse effect rate as 5.5% in 679 pacemaker patients.

[...]

5. Conclusion

Under certain conditions, mobile phones can cause temporary dysfunctions on pacemaker functions. It is highly probable that such adverse effects would be seen at a distance of 10 cm. Having a unipolar lead polarity increases the risk of being affected. The risk of being adversely affected is not different for single-chamber and dual-chamber pacemakers. Older generation pacemakers are under greater risk when compared to new generations. However, there is no need to panic. This effect is completely reversible and is not life-threatening except for the patients who are completely pacemaker-dependent. The temporary changes in the functions of the pacemakers are observed as ventricular triggering in dual-chamber pacemakers, and the entire dual-chamber pacemakers that are manufactured today have the mode-switch feature. Single-chamber pacemakers usually switch to asynchronous mode (VOO). The important issue is that there is a possibility of total pacemaker inhibition in patients who are completely pacemaker-dependent. To this end, when pacemakers are being implanted, the lead polarity should be bipolar if the patient does not have a rhythm of his own, and they should be informed about how to use the mobile phones safely.

From "RF Safety FAQ", FCC:

CAN IMPLANTED ELECTRONIC CARDIAC PACEMAKERS BE AFFECTED BY NEARBY RF DEVICES SUCH AS MICROWAVE OVENS OR CELLULAR TELEPHONES?

Over the past several years there has been concern that signals from some RF devices could interfere with the operation of implanted electronic pacemakers and other medical devices. Because pacemakers are electronic devices, they could be susceptible to electromagnetic signals that could cause them to malfunction. [...]

Some studies have shown that mobile phones can interfere with implanted cardiac pacemakers if a phone is used in close proximity (within about 8 inches) of a pacemaker. It appears that such interference is limited to older pacemakers, which may no longer be in use. Nonetheless, to avoid this potential problem, pacemaker patients can avoid placing a phone in a pocket close to the location of their pacemaker or otherwise place the phone near the pacemaker location during phone use. Patients with pacemakers should consult with their physician or the FDA if they believe that they may have a problem related to RF interference.

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Cell phones raise their output power when they're struggling to get signal, such as if they're in a train that's going through a tunnel or competing with other nearby cell phones. This raises the risk for higher exposure under such conditions.

It's worth noting that this problem is similar to why cell phones are discouraged on airplanes, leading to an "Airplane Mode" to be put into most modern devices. Activating this mode causes the cell phone's antennas to turn off. Assuming that all antennas are turned off, or at least the main ones, then I'd expect this to significantly reduce the risk to nearby pacemakers.

One complicating factor is that technology's rapidly changing, including the types, powers, and frequency of signals being used. This makes it hard to say with certainty that new devices, or devices that'll be out in a few years, won't pose new threats.

Interesting factoids from the cited references

  1. Cell phones don't usually appear to cause major adverse reactions, despite having been proven to cause them in some cases.

  2. Some cell phone technologies are safer than others. 3G and BlueTooth technologies were noted as relatively safe.

  3. Newer pacemakers are generally believed to be safer with respect to these issues, though guidelines still urge caution.

  4. Signal power is a big deal.

    • The signal needs to be powerful enough to cause an effect.

    • Signal power has three major factors:

      1. How strong the cell phone's max output is.

        • The AHA notes "Currently, phones available in the United States (less than 3 watts) don't appear to damage pulse generators or affect how the pacemaker works".
      2. What portion of its max the cell phone is working at.

        • Usually cell phones increase power to improve signal.

        • If the cell phone's not actively in use, it's probably lower.

      3. How far the pacemaker is from the cell phone.

        • Electromagnetic radiation drops off with the inverse square law. This means that having the cell phone 2 inches away drops the radiation by a factor of 4 compared to having it 1 inch away.

        • The FDA recommends: "Hold the phone to the ear opposite the side of the body where the pacemaker is implanted to add some extra distance between the pacemaker and the phone".

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  • All very hypothetical. Most hospitals and many airlines have now removed bans on cellphones due to a lack of evidence that they can have *any* notable effect in anything other than extreme circumstances. What is the actual *experimental* rather than hypothetical evidence? – matt_black May 31 '17 at 11:43
  • @matt_blac The FDA and AHA don't appear to be speaking hypothetically, just simply for causal readers. A more technical report with empirical testing: ["The effects of mobile phones on pacemaker function"](http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S016752730400693X) (2004). From skimming the literature, it looks like most recent studies consider this sort of interference to be established fact, and they no longer report it as an experimental finding. I'll add a quote to the above answer. – Nat May 31 '17 at 11:55
  • Tangentially, I'd add that there've been reports of hackers being able to break into devices like pacemakers; presumably such an attack could be launched by a cell phone. This isn't mentioned in the above answer as it seems to be a different sort of concern. – Nat May 31 '17 at 12:07
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    Hacking is, indeed, quite different from unintended electromagnetic interference and should not be confused with it. – matt_black May 31 '17 at 12:11
  • UK regulators no longer recommend keeping phones out of hospital and few credible reports of interference have been posted (many blame a phone but mostly the claim is unfounded once investigated). See [MHRA guidance](https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/electromagnetic-interference-sources/electromagnetic-interference-sources) and [DH guidance](http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20130107105354/http:/www.dh.gov.uk/prod_consum_dh/groups/dh_digitalassets/%40dh/%40en/documents/digitalasset/dh_092812.pdf). – matt_black May 31 '17 at 12:14
  • @matt_black According to those guidelines, they don't recommend a hospital-wide ban, but they do claim that there're verified cases of sensitivity. The study I'd linked also reports empirically finding sensitivity in their testing. This seems to all hold together pretty well; that it's not usually a problem, but it can happen under certain conditions, and that care should be taken when a cell phone might come near a vulnerable device (e.g., within 2 meters, as in the guidelines you'd linked). To me, this looks like widespread agreement. – Nat May 31 '17 at 12:19
  • It is the rarity of verified issues that stands out for me. If mobile phones were a significant problem, there would be a lot more issues. Blanket warnings (like the Japanese one) do not seem to be warranted. – matt_black May 31 '17 at 12:45
  • @matt_black Given that the effect's been proven in lab tests, it does sound like a real-life danger. Though I suppose it's probably hard for people to tell when cell phones triggered a pacemaker to malfunction; I mean, if someone does have an attack while on a pacemaker, do the doctors immediately launch an investigation into if a cell phone was near 'em? So, I think that the Japanese mass transit system's just trying to be careful, since they really do pack people together there - a cell phone can come much closer than the 1-2m recommended in the guidelines you'd linked. – Nat May 31 '17 at 12:48
  • most pacemaker users probably have their own phones now, so I wouldn't be worried about other people's phones. And verifying that some sensitive devices very occasionally see effects, isn't the same as showing that pacemakers do. – matt_black May 31 '17 at 12:50
  • @matt_black The experimental evidence that I meant was from the study that I've linked, and quoted in the above answer: **"_This is a clinical study trying to identify the effects of electromagnetic field generated by mobile phones that are currently used worldwide on transvenous permanent pacemaker function. In our study, we demonstrated the presence of such an effect without any doubt and found the total adverse effect rate as 5.5% in 679 pacemaker patients._"** – Nat May 31 '17 at 12:52
  • @matt_black As for patients with cell phones, the federal guidelines recommend that doctors warn patients about the dangers and how to handle them. Hopefully most patients comply with this, but unfortunately it's hard to tell what triggers their episodes when they happen. – Nat May 31 '17 at 12:55