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Did Barack Obama say the following?

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"They'll warn that tyranny is always lurking just around the corner. You should reject those voices."

This is contrasted to Jefferson saying "When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. When the government fears the people, there is liberty."

(There's a logo of "Gun Owners of America" in the top left hand corner)

Andrew Grimm
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    It's not even certain that Jefferson wrote or spoke the words on the left. *if there is a so-called "Thomas Jefferson Quote" and it does not identify the precise source, who it was written to and the date, then more than likely it is a fake.* [Ref](http://eyler.freeservers.com/JeffPers/jefpco13.htm) – RedGrittyBrick May 09 '13 at 10:18
  • @RedGrittyBrick Wow. I hadn't even thought of checking the veracity of that quote. – Andrew Grimm May 09 '13 at 11:50
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    The "Jefferson" quote on the left actually comes from John Basil Barnhill in 1914. ([Original document](http://debs.indstate.edu/b262b3_1914.pdf)) There is no known Jefferson document with this quote in it. ([Source](http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Thomas_Jefferson#Misattributed)) – Django Reinhardt May 09 '13 at 13:38
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    *"So many persons have of late found an interest or a passion gratified by imputing to me sayings and writings which I never said or wrote, or by endeavoring to draw me into newspapers to harass me personally, that I have found it necessary for my quiet and my other pursuits to leave them in full possession of the field, and not to take the trouble of contradicting them even in private conversation."* --Thomas Jefferson to Alexamder White, Sept. 10, 1797. (ME 9:424) [Ref](http://wiki.monticello.org/mediawiki/index.php/Category:Spurious_Quotations) – RedGrittyBrick May 09 '13 at 14:20
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    *"You shouldn't believe everything you read on the Internet"* - Abraham Lincoln – Tacroy May 09 '13 at 17:40
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    @DjangoReinhardt Exactly. Quote attributed to Jefferson (for decades) was in fact sourced from "Barnhill-Tichenor Debate on Socialism", Nat'l Ripsaw Publishing, Missouri, 1914. John Basil Barnhill, "Indictment of Socialism No. 3", p. 34. – Ellie Kesselman May 09 '13 at 19:27
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    Oddly enough, I don't see any contrast in the quotes. Jefferson is (supposedly) saying that the people should not fear the government... as is the Obama quote. – NPSF3000 Jul 19 '15 at 05:23

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Yes he did. It may have been taken a bit out of context:

Unfortunately, you’ve grown up hearing voices that incessantly warn of government as nothing more than some separate, sinister entity that’s at the root of all our problems; some of these same voices also doing their best to gum up the works. They’ll warn that tyranny is always lurking just around the corner. You should reject these voices. Because what they suggest is that our brave and creative and unique experiment in self-rule is somehow just a sham with which we can’t be trusted.

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Since the original claim is that Obama contradicted Jefferson (and presumably by implication that Obama didn't understand the founding principles of U.S. government), I think the quote attributed to Jefferson is fair game for an answer.

According to the Thomas Jefferson Foundation, nothing resembling it appears in the papers and biographies of Jefferson.

The earliest appearance of the phrase that they found is The Barnhill-Tichenor debate on Socialism (1914), where it appears in one of (John Basil) Barnhill's sections, in a list of bons mots. It isn't clear whether Barnhill originated it, but there is no mention of Jefferson.

The earliest attribution to Jefferson that they found was from 1994.

For the Obama quote, see Andrew Grimm's answer.

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