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In 2010, a plane crash killed many top Polish officials. It occurred over Russian soil, and involved an aircraft carrying many politicians and military officials with a strong opposition towards the Russian government, which is known to be dishonest at times.

Since the crash, the Russian government along with their answer to the NTSB, have been very secretive about the details, frequently recalling evidence, and giving inconsistent explanations. More interestingly, many of the crash's witnesses have passed away, and others still have gone missing.

While there's a fair amount of evidence suggesting that the Russian government was involved in the crash, this model of aircraft — produced when Russia was still the USSR — has a significant history of crashes under similar circumstances, which could suggest that the crash was routine, if unfortunate.

Is there any conclusive evidence proving/disproving that the Russian government was involved in this, or not?

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  • @RobZ - how is this "borderline"? This was a famous conspiracy theory in both Russia, Poland and everywhetre since the day it happened. – user5341 Jan 31 '13 at 18:00
  • If your objection was to the last line, you should have been a bit more explicit in what the problem was. "borderline" isn't terribly helpful in addressing issues, being very vague :) – user5341 Jan 31 '13 at 18:43
  • @DVK - Yes, I agree. – rjzii Jan 31 '13 at 20:19
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    What sort of evidence would prove the Russian government was NOT involved? This conspiracy theory seems unfalsifiable. – Oddthinking Jan 31 '13 at 20:53
  • There's no conclusive evidence linking the Russian government to the accident. Theorists (and unconfirmed witnesses) suggest that the runway lights at the airport were turned off (deliberately?), while official sources within the government deny it. – Jules Jan 31 '13 at 21:38
  • Related question: http://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/8104/was-pakistani-president-general-muhammad-zia-ul-haq-assassinated – Oddthinking Feb 01 '13 at 08:26
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    "many of the crash's witnesses have passed away" - I count one witness there. Which isn't that relevant, because all he could add is was on tape in Polish Air Force Jak-40 plane. Which had not crashed and Russians had no access to it. Other isn't a witness, just a cameraman for journalist who first reported the crash, journalist himself is alive and well. The rest aren't even remotely "witnesses", they were just critical of MAK report (just like other few million far right supporters in Poland). – vartec Feb 01 '13 at 10:55
  • As for alleged motive, like killing "enemies of Russia": *"politicians and military officials with a strong opposition towards the Russian government"* actually it was president, which was by every poll bound to loose re-election by huge margin (the trip was kickoff for his campaign), far right Law&Justice party members, also bound to loose next elections big time. Also parliamentary representatives from all parties, some WW2 veterans and whole top brass from the General Staff. Later (at least formally) is apolitical, and they never (officially) expressed any anti-Russian sentiments. – vartec Feb 01 '13 at 11:19
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    @Oddthinking: True, in this case the theorists have already spoken. *"lack of evidence is itself the evidence that evidence was hidden or destroyed"* Can't get around that ;-) – vartec Feb 01 '13 at 15:28
  • @vartec: We can get around that! We can ask "What sort of evidence would it take to convince you?" If it turns out there is none, we can close the question as unanswerable by science and evidence. It becomes faith or an axiom. – Oddthinking Feb 01 '13 at 20:23
  • @Oddthinking: hence in Poland it is often referred to as The Church of Smolensk. OTOH, many intelligent people get fooled by this and believe that "what happened has not have been fully explained". Even though there are two complete reports, and investigation both by Polish Attorney General office and by Polish Military Attorney General office. – vartec Feb 01 '13 at 21:24
  • Update on the alleged cameraman who passed away. Results, that this cameraman was in grave condition in the hospital long before the accident happened and obviously he didn't film anything related to it. Moreover, he already at that time did not work with Wiktor Bater, who left TVN years earlier. Interview with his friend and colleague (in Polish): http://natemat.pl/71733,pawel-pluska-operator-tvn-nie-mogl-nagrac-zdjec-ze-smolenska-bo-od-miesiecy-lezal-w-szpitalu – vartec Aug 16 '13 at 16:45
  • The conspiracy theorist commission yet again becomes the laughingstock for the public. http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/37668234-37e9-11e3-8668-00144feab7de.html#axzz2iMKbU0wh – vartec Oct 21 '13 at 12:38
  • [This article](http://www.smolenskcrashnews.com/traces-of-explosives-on-crashed-Polish-president-plane.html) of June, 2014, reveals numerous cases of "inaccuracy" in the official report. The article concludes that there are **traces of explosives** on the remainders of the plane. – Be Brave Be Like Ukraine Jun 30 '14 at 20:37

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No, there is no evidence to support "a setup".

There where two independent official investigations, one by Interstate Aviation Committee (IAC; Russian: Межгосударственный авиационный комитет, МАК), one by Polish Ministry of Defense's Committee for Investigation of National Aviation Accidents (Polish: Komisja Badania Wypadków Lotniczych Lotnictwa Państwowego; KBWLLP). Also participating in IAC's investigation were numerous accredited experts from Poland, and in some parts of investigation, regarding US made avionics, included two experts from US (one from FAA and one from NTSB).

While reports differed slightly on who's more to blame, both concluded that causes where thick fog, pilot errors, ill prepared airfield and errors in communication between control tower and pilot. Two big points of discrepancy are:

  • whether there was pressure from President or Air Force Commander-in-Chief to land. Russian report states that there was such a pressure, Polish report does not address the issue
  • errors committed by control tower: Russian report clears them of responsibility, as they did not give permission to land, OTOH Polish report points out their failures (see points relating to "Approach Control" and "LZC" in report below);

Polish final report (in English)

3.2. Cause and Circumstances of the Accident

3.2.1. Cause of Accident The immediate cause of the accident was the descent below the minimum descent altitude at an excessive rate of descent in weather conditions which prevented visual contact with the ground, as well as a delayed execution of the go-around procedure. Those circumstances led to an impact on a terrain obstacle resulting in separation of a part of the left wing with aileron and consequently to the loss of aircraft control and eventual ground impact.

3.2.2. Circumstances Contributing to the Accident

  1) Failure to monitor altitude by means of a pressure altimeter during a non-precision approach;

 2) failure by the crew to respond to the PULL UP warning generated by the TAWS;

  3) attempt to execute the go-around maneuver under the control of ABSU (automatic goaround);

  4) Approach Control confirming to the crew the correct position of the airplane in relation to the RWY threshold, glide slope, and course which might have affirmed the crew's belief that the approach was proceeding correctly although the airplane was actually outside the permissible deviation margin;

  5) failure by LZC to inform the crew about descending below the glide slope and delayed issuance of the level-out command;

  6) incorrect training of the Tu-154M flight crews in the 36 Regiment.

3.2.3. Conducive circumstances

  1) incorrect coordination of the crew's work, which placed an excessive burden on the aircraft commander in the final phase of the flight;

  2) insufficient flight preparation of the crew;

  3) the crew‘s insufficient knowledge of the airplane's systems and their limitations;

  4) inadequate cross-monitoring among the crew members and failure to respond to the mistakes committed;

  5) crew composition inadequate for the task;

  6) ineffective immediate supervision of the 36 Regiment's flight training process by the Air Force Command;

  7) failure by the 36 Regiment to develop procedures governing the crew's actions in the event of:

      a) failure to meet the established approach criteria;
      b) using radio altimeter for establishing alarm altitude values for various types of approach;
      c) distribution of duties in a multi-crew flight.

  8) sporadic performance of flight support duties by LZC over the last 12 months, in particular under difficult WC, and lack of practical experience as LZC at the SMOLENSK NORTH airfield.


Other circumstantial evidence:

  • The captain of the 2010 flight was co-pilot on infamous 2008 presidential trip to Tibilisi, Georgia, where pilots refused president's "order" to change flight plan and fly into a war zone (original flight plan was to fly to Baku, Azerbaijan and get to Tibilisi by ground transport). President Kaczyński later called them cowards (exact quote: "an officer should be less fearful"), and demanded their prosecution. (see eg. Telegraph article)

  • In 2008 there was a crash in Mirosławiec, which bears lot of similarities:

    • Air Force transport, pilots with similar training as PLF 101 pilots
    • crashed attempting to land in thick fog
    • ignored procedures
    • ignored EGPWS/TAWS warnings
    • top brass on board, which might have added pressure to land

As for alternative "investigation" by conspiracy theorists, it's based on opinions of 3 "experts", all of them academic scientist, neither of them directly specializing in aviation (their specialization is: civil engineering, spectroscopy and explosives). All of them are friends (from the 1980's opposition times) of Antoni Macierewicz, the man behind the conspiracy theory. These scientist did not visit the crash site, they had no access to any physical evidence. The opinion of the "explosives expert" is based on allegedly holding a small piece of metal (allegedly plane fragment) in his hand for a few seconds. Other "expert" based his opinions on the model he created using software to simulate... car crashes. Opinion on plane's aerodynamics was given by... spectroscopy expert.

Some more "mainstream" conspiracy theory points, and why they are not true:

  • The fog was artificial — allegedly created with TMC-65 machine. According to KBWLLP experts, plane does not behave any differently in natural or artificial fog, it's just as safe or unsafe to land in either one, so it wouldn't be the cause of the accident. Also, it's not physically possible to create 200km² of artificial fog.
  • There where two explosions on board — KBWLLP checked the wreck and bodies for any signs of explosion. None were found. Nor was it recorded by CVR or any other recording device.
  • Landing Zone Controller intentionally fed crew false data — KBWLLP report found that approach radars in disrepair, one of them wasn't properly attached and had up to 10 degrees of vertical sway. The hardware was never intended for precision landings in zero visibility. So while data was inaccurate, it could not be attributed to malice. KBWLLP also notes, that in such situation LZC is only providing additional information, while it's the aircraft's crew, who is fully responsible for verifying aircraft's position.
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    Isn't MAK a government agency, though? That would lend some (if little) credibility to the conspiracy claim. – Jules Feb 01 '13 at 20:36
  • + Nice summary. I would add that "big cheese on board overrides pilot's judgement" is a, sadly, not uncommon accident scenario. – Mike Dunlavey Feb 01 '13 at 21:06
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    IAC (aka MAK) is international, almost all of ex-Soviet states participate. Of course it's governmental. Just like NTSB and FAA are. Which doesn't matter, because **I'm quoting the Polish report** – vartec Feb 01 '13 at 21:40
  • "Miroslawiec ... pressure to land because of top brass on board" - let us identify a source, or edit. This does not seem a correct interpretation of the source already linked (wikipedia) which lists different causes. – Jirka Hanika Feb 07 '13 at 16:21
  • @JirkaHanika: ok, edited to make it clear it's not a proven fact. It's been widely speculated in the press, but it's not possible to prove or disprove what's was going in someone's mind. It's not about generals giving an order to land, more about pilots feeling intimidated by having whole Air Force top brass on board. – vartec Feb 07 '13 at 17:15
  • @vartec - Well, there could be cockpit recordings. But the edit helped. – Jirka Hanika Feb 07 '13 at 22:43
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    Unwiki'd for you. – Jamiec Apr 16 '13 at 11:19
  • @JulesMazur Who would expect to investigate a plane crash if not a government body charged with air safety? – GordonM Oct 15 '15 at 12:57