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I started a single sunflower, a giant cultivar called 'Titan', it's been doing well so far.

I want to have valid (or, is the better word 'viable'?) seeds from it at the end of season. They don't have to be producing the original cultivar, I just want to have something to experiment next year in terms of seed starting. I am not going to use them for eating.

Do I need another sunfolower for pollinating?

VividD
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Sunflowers that self-pollinate produce viable seeds. The only thing to watch out for is inbreeding, that is in a few generations the plants will exhibit traits that you don't see now on your current plant. If the seeds you planted come from already inbred plants, you will see the drift sooner, but if they were cross-pollinated with other plants from the same variety, the "hidden traits" (recessive genes) will show up later.

Update: I forgot to mention - if you want to make sure it will produce seeds and you don't want to rely on bees, use a paintbrush to transfer pollen between flowers (every flower will produce a seed). A sunflower is actually an inflorescence, a collection of individual flowers, the yellow ones on the edge being sterile.

Alina
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  • I have hard time finding out if 'Titan' is self-pollinating (or any sunflower cultivar for that matter). – VividD Apr 08 '18 at 08:00
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    @VividD Sunflowers' best propagation method is cross-pollination. Self-pollination produces more empty seeds, so it is best to avoid it if you want a higher yield. Search for "autogamy in Helianthus annuus" and you will find scientific articles about the self-pollination of sunflowers made with the purpose of creating inbred lines for further breeding programmes. – Alina Apr 08 '18 at 08:46
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Sunflowers have perfect flowers with both male and female parts. So, yes, it should be self-pollinating. Titan is an heirloom; so, it should breed true, too, provided it isn't cross-pollinated by another breed.

There are said to be many flowers within each sunflower head. The first link I mentioned talks about how sunflowers protect themselves against inbreeding, but I don't know why that would be an issue anyway, if the plant is stabilized (unless it mutates or really wasn't stabilized). A stable plant shouldn't have any heterozygous traits that are important to the breed. Sunflowers are diploids, like many other plants (so, it shouldn't be as hard to stabilize them as it is for tetraploid plants). Alina may be able to add clarity to the inbreeding issue. I'm guessing the worry is about mutations, which could create heterozygous genes. Maybe sunflowers mutate a lot.

Here's an article on inbreeding, though. What I dislike about these articles/discussions is that recessive traits are often equated with deleterious traits. Recessive traits are very often good much as dominant traits are very often good. The only difference is that if a recessive trait is expressed, then the dominant trait has been bred out and shouldn't return, while if a dominant trait is expressed, then the recessive trait may or may not still be in the genetics. Mutations are said to be more commonly recessive, though; so, maybe that's what the whole thing is about.

If you just leave the plant alone, it should drop seeds that will sprout the next year. However, if you spread the seeds around in the fall/spring (if they're still attached to the head), you should get a lot more plants. Smaller sunflowers seem to drop seeds more easily, but Titan has large seeds/heads; so, you may need to remove them manually after the plant has died/dried.

Anyway, all that being said, I would still plant multiple plants, especially if what Alina says is true about more empty seeds being in self-pollinated plants, and if mutations are common enough to merit a concern about inbreeding. However, I'm guessing you'll still get enough seeds either way (you only need a few seeds to get a few plants), but, I say, the more the merrier.

If you were in charge of keeping the true variety alive, or if you were going to sell seeds labeled Titan, you should probably be concerned about inbreeding.

Brōtsyorfuzthrāx
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    Very insightful answer, especially the practical knowledge about "Titan" that I knew only in theory, not from actually growing it. I'm a bit embarrassed for having more upvotes just because I was the first to answer. About breeding: I agree that recessive traits are not automatically bad, it's just that by expressing them the new plant will look more different compared to other plants from cross-pollinated seeds. Lately I have learned some new things about breeding, so anybody wishing to have a partner for discussion is welcome to ping me on chat in weekends when I have more time to talk. – Alina Apr 10 '18 at 19:46
  • You're fine. :) Your answer was great (except more sources would have been great). I learned a lot in investigating the matter, though, and the sources I supplied and conclusions I made pretty much back up what you said, except maybe that bit about how sunflowers protect themselves against inbreeding (if it's true, anyway). I haven't grown Titan, either, but I plan to grow it, this year, along with several other large-seeded sunflowers. Baker Creek is an heirloom seed company, and they carry it (so, that's why I said it's an heirloom). – Brōtsyorfuzthrāx Apr 11 '18 at 01:32
  • My comments on large-seeded sunflowers were based off the more common Mammoth Gray Striped. After I grow Titan, I can update my answer if anything seems off, like if it drops its seeds easily. – Brōtsyorfuzthrāx Apr 11 '18 at 01:32