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My question is this :

Given the type of Grass I have as pictured below and all these different kinds of weeds I have - what kind of weed killer do I need to use to kill the weeds and promote the grass to grow.

I know if the weeds were something I wanted to grow they would for sure be dead, and if I wanted the grass dead for sure I would have it growing everywhere as the only green thumb I have is in how to grow weeds (and for those of you thinking to be funny - that is weeds with an S ).

1: I do not know what kind of grass I have so I am not familiar with what kind of weed killer I need to use in order to allow the grass to still grow. I do have a picture... below.. see that single beautiful green blade (yeah I know it is a rare beast in my 'lawn'.

Green Blade of Grass is the Kind I have

2: I do not know what kinds of weeds I have but I have pictures - I know one is a dollar weed others I don't know..

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Dollar and Others?? DollarandOthers

StrangeGrass StrangeGrass

Ken
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The easy method is to ask in a gardening shop. They can help with the right period, and what it is the "normal grass" in the region.

In any case, I think there is some problem with the soil. Various weeds you have are adventitious, and they like poor soil. Maybe the soil is very compact, or not depth enough to carry good grass roots. I would redo the lawn.

If you want grass, you should use some dicotyledon herbicide. Dicotyledon plants most of the plants usually with large leaves (and all plants but in first and last picture). So such herbicide will keep your grass.

It is much more difficult to kill monocotyledon weeds: many grass-like weeds are really grass, and often the same family and possibly also the same genus as the normal grass. So it is more difficult to fight such weeds. I would use a non selective herbicide, but than you should go plant to plant to treat them (or my preferred method: manual removal of weeds).

Giacomo Catenazzi
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  • Manual removal will take forever the lawn is more weed than grass and I am not in NYC so the lawn is about 1/2 to 3/4 acre. My neighbors yards seem to be fine - I have had lawn treatment companies come treat and one of them actually helped but sadly the lawn was still not like my neighbors (which are not superb but average) . so I am thinking time to DIY it. I have talked to big box garden shops and they don't seem to know much.. – Ken Mar 19 '18 at 20:37
  • I think the soil is not good. Probably your neighbor did some soil preparation before to seed lawn. You are not in NYC, but 1 acre is small. I didn't say to remove all weed by hand, but just as second pass, with the tufts and large remaining monocots (like last picture). This will take just few hours (probably less). Sometime I should explain you about alpine pastures, where weed killers are not an option ;-). – Giacomo Catenazzi Mar 19 '18 at 20:55
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As Giacomo wrote, you need a dicotyledon - or "broadleaf" weedkiller. A good one for lawns is Weed-B-Gone or one of its cheaper knock-offs. Weed-B-Gone contains three different herbicides (Dicamba, 2-4D, and Mecoprop/MCPP). It will kill most of the weeds in the lawn and leave the grass (it won't kill violets or Queen Anne's Lace, but I don't see them in the photos anyway).

If you decide to spray, I recommend that you have a professional do it; the amount of herbicide you're going to need will run into the gallons and will be very expensive for you to buy yourself. You'll also need a backpack sprayer.

This will give you a temporary reprieve - the weeds will come back because, as Giacomo also noted, there looks to be something else wrong. Here are some things you can try after spraying the lawn (in no particular order)

  1. Mow the lawn high. Always. At least 3 inches. This will help shade weed seeds and keep them from sprouting. A taller lawn is one with deeper roots, so it also won't need as much water and will provide some competition for the weeds.

  2. Remove all seedheads from the weeds (for dandelions, remove the flowers). Do not just toss the seedhead back onto the lawn - some weeds, like dandelions, will still set ripe seed even if the flowerhead is not attached to the plant. If you don't have a hot compost pile, burn them (outdoors only) or toss into your garbage.

    This sounds funny, I know, but one dandelion seedhead can cause you tons more work in just a single year. Your neighbors with the manicured lawn will thank you. And you may provide amusement for everyone in the neighborhood while you wander your lawn, collecting spent flowers :) I know my neighbors enjoy it when I do that...

  3. Dig up as many weeds as you can, especially those with taproots like dandelion. A single spray of herbicide doesn't always kill them, but digging them and removing the carcasses from the garden will. I recommend a trenching spade (it has a very long spade on it), and dig after a good rain or heavy watering to keep from breaking the root.

  4. Have your soil tested - your local state Extension can probably do it for you. Follow all recommendations as to fertilizer and anything else they tell you. Pay attention to the timing of spreading the fertilizer. A well-fed lawn is a happy lawn.

  5. Dethatch the lawn to help break up compaction.

  6. When you mow, if you remove only an inch or so of each grass blade, do not bag the cuttings - they help feed your lawn.

  7. Forget about a lawn and plant a groundcover native to your region - maybe not in the entire lawn, but in a great portion of it. You can also vary this by including shrubs and trees, which will help bring wildlife into your yard. If you plan this correctly (right plant - right place!) and only plant shrubs appropriate for the site so that you don't have to prune them much, you'll also save a lot of time not mowing and not maintaining the yard. If you do this, though, you WILL need to mulch the area with the groundcover until it's established; you'll also have to mulch around the shrubs. Oh - if you go the shrub route, you probably will want to also edge it to keep the "lawn" out of the bed.

If you decide to use an herbicide and to apply it yourself - read and follow all directions, including those on properly disposing of the empty container.

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