11

I'm a real hot chili lover, and yearly grow about 50 plants from about 10 varieties. I'm used to grow 3 plants (of the same variety) in a single 40 liter pot. While I do get good results, I'm still not sure if it's a good idea to put multiple plants in one pot, or just grow one plant per pot.

Let's assume I can only place 10 pots of each 40 liters for space and maintenance reasons. Cost of seeds and germinating them is negliable as 10 seeds cost just max 3 EUR. Cost of potting soil is quite more expensive however, let' say 8 EUR per 40 liter. Would it be a better idea to only put 10 plants in 10 pots, or place 30 plants in 10 pots? Or would another setup be better? What would give the most return to investment, and why?

... EDIT ...

For illustration purposes, these were my plants last year:

21 may 2017: just placed outside (germinated in februari, first grown indoors as we can get frost until may here)

enter image description here

6 july 2017

enter image description here

A single picking of peppers (unfortunately I don't have any later pictures of the plants)

enter image description here

Close up of 2 satan's kiss and a 'peter' pepper.

enter image description here

Run CMD
  • 317
  • 2
  • 3
  • 11
  • 1
    40 L per pot is quite a lot for a chili plant. How tall do your plants get? I would think that a normal sized plant would fit in a 5 L pot? So even 3 plants per 40 L pot is already much more soil than single plants in 5 L pots. – benn Feb 21 '18 at 21:46
  • @b.nota Good point. Maximum height would be around 1 meter (grown anually). But then again, maintaining 50 5L pots would be quite a hassle, instead of 16 40L pots, not only for watering, but for example wind throwing the pots over etc... – Run CMD Feb 21 '18 at 22:02
  • So are you saying you've got 10 gallon pots for your peppers? Hopefully you are using potting soil! I've grown the best crop of peppers ever in 4" pots, I kid you not. Depends on the pepper, I grow my Thai Chili Peppers in 5 gal pots...but to get there they start out in 2" pots, then 4" pots then in 6" pots to finally be planted in 3 gallon pots. This accelerates the growth of plants. To plant seeds in a 15 gallon pot is not only risky but usually detrimental to your crop. What kind of fertilizer are you using? Potting soil? – stormy Feb 22 '18 at 01:17
  • @stormy I indeed use potting soil with the least amount of fertilizer included in it. As a fertilizer I use 4-8-8 NPK solution with different micronutrients. – Run CMD Feb 22 '18 at 17:49
  • You got a great harvest! I LOVE chili peppers. I was able to string my peppers from my little garden of 4" pots into 3, 3' long chains after they were dried. Maybe 16 4" pots of peppers? Tons of peppers. Artificial lighting. Fertilizer is started when starts are up potted from the 2" pots to 4"...maybe added twice until harvested. Lots of blowing air, I take the pots out of the tray to separate the plants for more ventilation. I got a huge infestation of white fly but it did not interfere with production. I washed them off with water a lot... – stormy Feb 26 '18 at 01:55
  • Don't worry about wind knocking pots over, the wind will ruin the foliage first. Bury the pots halfway in the garden soil and cover with floating row cover. I thought I commented that your formulation of fertilizer was perfect but I would buy the fertilizer separate from having it included in the soil but I don't see that comment... – stormy Feb 26 '18 at 02:00
  • I know I already commented that my hubby and I are weak from laughter to see your last picture. Amazing that you got that through on our site which is very strict...grins! Made my day! – stormy Feb 26 '18 at 02:02
  • You seem to have plenty of soil. Why not plant into the ground when the weather is right? – Graham Chiu Feb 26 '18 at 08:29
  • There is a "Peter Pepper" variety. Never tried growing it, but I understood it to be a novelty that looks a bit like the last picture. – winwaed Feb 27 '18 at 14:37
  • @stormy :-) I like to serve them to my friends on top of a salad with a splash of mayo in front... ;-D – Run CMD Feb 27 '18 at 18:39
  • @GrahamChiu I've never tried that since using pots gives more flexibility in my opinion. During a heat wave you can put them in the shadow for example. But maybe this year I'll try to put a few directly in the ground so I can compare the results. Thanks for the tip! – Run CMD Feb 27 '18 at 18:39
  • @winwaed "Peter pepper" and "Penis pepper" are actually the same peppers. 'Peter pepper' is just the 'censored' name of the same pepper. :-) I can surely recommend them, production is good and they taste quite nice while having similar heat like that of cayenne. (https://www.pepperseeds.eu/penis-pepper-red.html) – Run CMD Feb 27 '18 at 18:47
  • Oh my goodness, you've broken the barrier and I've got a hernia from laughing....I built fire pits for people who love to roast their chilis, grins! Using pots really makes a difference; you can only grow your peppers in the garden soil once every three years...I have a huge garden for vegetables and I use pots and potting soil an awful lot. – stormy Feb 28 '18 at 01:52

4 Answers4

5

As is often pointed out in books on small-space gardening, spacing recommendations aren't set to maximise yield per unit area, but yield per plant.

If 3 plants per pot works, carry on. You'll get more chillies this way than growing only 1/3 of the plants. You may be able to get bigger fruit by thinning them. You may need to water and fertilise more often than single plants in the same size pots.

But why not try an experiment: Plant a pot with 3, then a pot with 1 (all of the same variety A), then 3 of variety B in one pot, 1 of variety B, 3 of variety C etc. When you harvest, log how much you get from each pot (or even each plant) by picking into a different container for each pot, and weighing the fruit when you get them back to the kitchen. As chillies ripen over a long period you'll need to do this every time you pick. Growth/ripening rates may differ between the full and sparse pots. You can then also keep notes about the quality of the chillies -- you may want total weight (e.g. if making chilli flakes), but you may want the individual chillies to be big.

Chris H
  • 1,162
  • 1
  • 7
  • 15
  • Good point about the yield per area, instead of yield per plant. Maybe that's the core of the question. Also very good idea about the experiment. I might try that this year if I can be disciplined enough. :-) – Run CMD Feb 22 '18 at 18:09
2

It's recommended that plants be separated in the ground by 20 inches. If you try that in a 40 litre pot you'll only get one plant per pot.

If you plant more plants per pot, then what's going to happen is that each plant will compete with the others so they'll be smaller plants with smaller chili's.

They say you can plant into 2 litre containers but they are then more fragile, easily blow over, and need more attention to watering and fertilizing.

https://www.thompson-morgan.com/how-to-grow-chilli-peppers

Graham Chiu
  • 23,044
  • 5
  • 36
  • 92
  • Thanks. I often read about the 'competing' argument, but that's just part of my question. What would give the most yield, one plant in it's own pot, or 3 competing plants in a single pot, considering the aspect of maintainability and space... Obviously if you put 50 pots out with each a single plant that would give the most yield, but I really can't imagine maintaining 50 single pots... – Run CMD Feb 22 '18 at 18:04
  • 1
    I've already voted for one plant! – Graham Chiu Feb 22 '18 at 18:51
2

I would plant starts of peppers in tiny pots upgrading them as soon as the roots show through the drain hole. In a 5 gallon pot you could easily grow 3 pepper plants of a smaller stature. My Thai peppers were maxed out in 1 gallon pots. One per pot. I upgraded them from tiny starts in tiny pots to a slightly larger pot and again to a slightly larger pot and usually it's final pot.

Make dang sure your nitrogen is way lower than the phosphorus and potassium. Do not use compost or anything else other than potting soil for your peppers. If you start your starts in tiny containers with potting soil and upgrade them as their roots maximize the pots...when they are in 6" pots up to 2 gallon pots per plant you will have the best crop as long as you've given them just enough fertilizer that is lower in Nitrogen than Phosphorus and Potassium, lots of sunlight out of doors, water when dry only...you'll get tons of peppers.

stormy
  • 40,098
  • 3
  • 31
  • 75
1

I wouldn't advise planting different types of pepper plants in the same pot. Not that it can be harmful to anyone or any of the plants! However, the outcome would be better if they were planted separately.

VividD
  • 5,810
  • 3
  • 21
  • 63