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I have an out of control clover infestation in my flower bed, but every time I dig out a batch of clover, it just springs back up within a month. The native grasses also seems to love the flowerbed.

It's my understanding that the broad leaf herbicides that kill clover will also kill the flowers.

Does anyone have tips or suggestions on how to keep a neat flowerbed?

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    Clovers for gardeners are like piracy for a developer :) you have to learn to live with them. I have already tried everything (solarization, herbicides, composting) but they always come back. I think that most effective method is to put a layer of gravel between you and them. – BYJ Aug 06 '14 at 09:24
  • Maybe I just need to get used to spending time digging out the weeds every few weeks. – Jeff-Inventor ChromeOS Aug 06 '14 at 09:37
  • Yeah.. I can write an answer for you if you like, but I will need species name or at least some pictures. – BYJ Aug 06 '14 at 09:44
  • Depending on how large the flowerbeds are you could just be sure to weed every week or so, it's certainly how I manage invaders in my vegetable plot. Are you using a mulch? If not I reccommend you do. (@ondoteams suggestion for gravel could count as mulch depending on your definition.) – Alpar Aug 06 '14 at 09:45
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    I think it's red clover. All the flowers are daffodils. I'm not sure which species of grass is invading, maybe one of the fescues. – Jeff-Inventor ChromeOS Aug 06 '14 at 09:54
  • @Alpar http://blogs.bikecrawler.com/2011/03/07/la-geria/ There is no translation for the word that I want to use.. but it is something like perlite. It is a volcanic material very common in Canary Islands. By the way gravel (triturated stones) will do the work too. – BYJ Aug 06 '14 at 10:02
  • I updated my answer with more solarization information. – BYJ Aug 06 '14 at 11:16

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Composting

  • Pros: germicide.
  • Cons: it take times, some clover seeds can germinate after composting and it is not suitable for large gardens.

Herbicides (Postemergent)

  • Pros: As per @J. Musser 's suggestion > quick; especially on rocky and hard soil.
  • Cons: all derivated from herbicide use and clovers may regrow.

Herbicides (Preemergent )

  • Pros: quick method and some herbicide formulas does not affect plants well established.
  • Cons: all derivated from herbicide use and clovers may regrow.

Mulch:

  • Pros: easy and innocuous.
  • Cons: none?

Solarization

  • Pros: germicide, fungicide, bactericide, microbicide.
  • Cons: it take time (45 - 90 days), it is season dependant, some clover seeds can germinate after solarization and you have to remove all the plants you have in the field.

What solarization is?

From Wikipedia: Soil solarization is an environmentally friendly method of using solar power for controlling pests such as soilborne plant pathogens including fungi, bacteria, nematodes, and insect and mite pests along with weed seed and seedlings in the soil by mulching the soil and covering it with tarp, usually with a transparent polyethylene cover, to trap solar energy. It may also describe methods of decontaminating soil using sunlight or solar power. This energy causes physical, chemical, and biological changes in the soil.

Solarization may kill clovers?

Yes, it will kill clovers, but seeds may remain intact (especially large seeds). Remeber that clovers seed can survive for years in dry soils.

Solarization may have many side effects on the bulbs?

Not sure, bulbs may be destroyed by heat or may be rotten for the high soil humidity...

My experience with solarization

I made two solarizations time ago. One of them to kill a very invasive species of Ipomoea and the other to remove a fungus in the soil. Both were very effective.

When I made the solarization against fungi, I noticed a decrease in the number of clovers and weeds in general (maybe 60% or 70% less).

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  • I'm not familiar with solarization. I wonder if that would work to kill the clover without too many side effects on the much larger daffodil bulbs. – Jeff-Inventor ChromeOS Aug 06 '14 at 10:40
  • @Jeff-InventorChromeOS Where are you from? Solarization, in order to be effective, needs very sunny summers. I will update my answer.. give me a moment because English is my Achilles heel. – BYJ Aug 06 '14 at 10:45
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    +1. I agree on most points, just wanted to say there are cases where post-ems are useful. – J. Musser Aug 06 '14 at 16:46
  • @J.Musser What do you think? Maybe the same pros that preemergent? – BYJ Aug 07 '14 at 10:46
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    Well, it can be a real time-saver sometimes, it's fast and effective. It is useful on beds that may not be disturbed, or have impossible rocky and hard soil. Of course, there are some issues, such as contaminated groundwater, to consider as well. – J. Musser Aug 12 '14 at 13:37
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The likelihood is your clover and grasses are rooted in with the plants you want to keep. Couch grass is difficult to eradicate by any means, clover you can get rid of - but it requires effort. You need to dig out as much of the roots as possible, preferably when the soil is nice and moist, loosening the soil around the clover then extracting it carefully with its roots. After that, frequent hoeing and removing the hoed off parts will deal with it, but, at the right time of year (autumn) I usually clear the bed if the colonization of weeds is extensive - I dig up everything that can be dug up, all the ornamental plants as well so long as they're not large, established shrubs. Then I inspect the rootballs of the ones I want to keep, extracting anything that shouldn't be there (couch grass roots, clover roots and anything else I don't want), thoroughly dig over the area removing any roots, then replant the newly cleaned ornamental ones you want.

If possible, it would be good to know what part of the world you're in and to see a couple of photos of the problem, showing the clover in particular. If you're in the USA, the area you're talking about might the size of a field for all I know, which would render the solution I've suggested so far irrelevant.

UPDATE: I've just noticed one of your responses in a comment above says that all the flowers are daffodils. Well, no problem then, if you're in the northern hemisphere - dig 'em all out now and thoroughly dig the bed over, removing all roots. You will need to have those daffs back in place by end of this month though. You might also want to consider planting properly in the bed, that is, plants which at least give ground cover during the time the daffodils are dormant - if you don't plant something in bare soil, nature will, as you've discovered.

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  • +1. Very similar to what I do. About field sized beds, if the plant's therein are mostly upright woodys, I sometimes use roundup. I find that once you're down to random seedlings coming up, control is fairly easy if you walk through with a probe every couple weeks, and get the young seedlings, which have one taproot. – J. Musser Aug 06 '14 at 16:40
  • What do you suggest goes well with the daffodils for ground cover? Maybe just a layer of bark? – Jeff-Inventor ChromeOS Aug 06 '14 at 18:00
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I would suggest using mulch. The trick is to use a very thick layer - about 6 inches. This should take care of clover. Grass will get trough the first year. But mulch will not allow for the grass to reseed itself, so once you weed the current one, new one will not settle in.

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  • Do I need to transplant the flower bulbs on top of the mulch? – Jeff-Inventor ChromeOS Aug 06 '14 at 17:57
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    If you're talking about wood or bark mulch, 6" is way too much. It will form a moisture barrier and decompose the wrong way. Also, I've had clover come through thick enough mulch it was damaging the good plants. Use mulch as a preventative, not a control. – J. Musser Aug 06 '14 at 18:23
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Might as well add my own method, to add onto the other valuable input you've gotten so far.

If all you have in the beds are daffodils, here's what I'd do:

  • Dig all the grass and clover you can. If you have heavy or wet soil, don't chop it up. Go through and try to dig out the main crowns first. After the bed is cleared of the biggest stuff, go through again, and pull up along any rooted stems by hand, and quickly dig out the roots as you go.

  • The bed should now appear free of grass and clover, but there are generally still some roots. Wait one week. If any leaves come through, dig out the roots supporting them. You can repeat this step if you want.

  • Put down a layer of mulch. Dyed wood chips or premium bark mulch are good for appearance. Don't add more than 2". Make sure there are no piles, and the surface is even.

  • There will likely be some roots you missed. They will use lots of energy emerging, and will be weakened. Use a probe, or digging knife, and walk through now and then popping up any clover you see. I reckon this should take less than 15 minutes every couple weeks, per 1000 sq. feet.

  • As an alternative to the last step, When you see weeds emerging, walk through and spray them with Roundup (glyphosate). This will kill the roots. Clover may take more than one application. After the roots are dead, all you might find will be seedlings, which may be removed by the root easily enough.

  • Add a covering of new mulch each year.

  • If you want, you can apply a pre-emergent herbicide before you lay the mulch. This will greatly decrease the seedling count that you'll get.

You could also start by spraying the entire bed with Roundup, but I always recommend using the least possible amount of pesticides. In the case that you do this, wait 1 week, if there is any green lefty spray again. Wait two days, cut to surface level, and mulch.

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  • Several people seem to be recommending digging it all out and replacing the soil, then transplanting the flowers. – Jeff-Inventor ChromeOS Aug 06 '14 at 19:17
  • @Jeff I think that isn't really necessary. It's effective, but it's extremely time/energy consuming. Also, you may miss some of the daffodils. I have dealt with clover in many, many types of bed, but I usually only dig it up like that if I had to dig out the good plants anyway, like if it was a perennial bed, and the clover was all through everything. – J. Musser Aug 06 '14 at 19:22