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My crockpot roast beef has the best aroma ever but the flavor of the finished product is only average. I had a 4 pound tri-tip roast and seasoned it with the usual onion, garlic, worcestershire sauce, cumin, basil, beef gravy packet, and enough beef broth to just cover roast in the crockpot. We walked in the door and the delicious aroma filled the whole house. But, when eating the roast, it was just okay. Lots of delicious aroma but very little flavor in the roast beef.

Why is this?

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Penny B
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    Please provide the full recipe and method for any hope of a reasonably helpful answer. – SAJ14SAJ Mar 02 '14 at 23:48
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    Also please give details of the beef you used: what cut is it and what grade/quality. – GdD Mar 03 '14 at 10:04
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    It would be much easier to identify if this whole smell-ivision ever took off... – rfusca Mar 03 '14 at 19:44
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    I'm going to put this on hold for now since we don't have a good way to tell what's going wrong. Penny, if you come back, just edit your post and add a little detail, and we'll reopen it right away so you can get some answers! – Cascabel Mar 03 '14 at 20:06
  • I had a 4 pound tri-tip roast and seasoned it with the usual onion, garlic, worcestershire sauce, cumin, basil, beef gravy packet, and enough beef broth to just cover roast in the crockpot. We walked in the door and the delicious aroma filled the whole house. But, when eating the roast, it was just okay. I was just wondering if anyone else had ever experienced this. – Penny B Mar 04 '14 at 20:02
  • This is still a little unclear. What do you mean "seasoned it"? How much did you use? Was it a quick rub? A marinade? Did you just toss those things in the pan with it? Post your recipe, please. – Aaronut Mar 05 '14 at 01:37
  • @PennyB Also, someone went ahead and did this for you, but to clarify more, you can just edit your question so the new details are easy for everyone to see up there! – Cascabel Mar 05 '14 at 01:46
  • How long did you cook it for? – Vince Bowdren Mar 05 '14 at 09:01
  • It might help to know if the liquid in the pot had flavor. Or was the sauce/liquid bland tasting too? – highBandWidth Mar 05 '14 at 20:42
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    Its probably important to note that on a 4 pound cut of meat, whole, no seasoning is going to penetrate the interior of the meat. That's what sauces are for :) – rfusca Mar 05 '14 at 21:53
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    Wow! I did not realize how difficult it was going to be to communicate here. :) The seasonings that I put in the crock pot aren't from any "recipe," nothing is "measured." This is just my usual way of doing a roast in my crockpot. Since rfusca said that no seasoning is going to penetrate the interior of the meat and that's what sauces are for, I am wondering if I should exclude the onion, garlic, cumin, basil, beef gravy packet and beef broth and only use worcestershire sauce, maybe mixed with another couple of sauces, barbecue or steak sauce??? What do you do? – Penny B Mar 06 '14 at 03:29
  • @Penny : I usually cut it into slabs, and let it soak in the juices for a bit. (assuming I didn't cook it 'til it shreds under its own weight ... which I prefer, but the folks I tend to cook for aren't fans of) – Joe Mar 06 '14 at 05:05
  • Interesting! This sounds very sensible. I am going to try this. – Penny B Mar 07 '14 at 06:48
  • "What do you do?" With a tri-tip, I generously salt and pepper, then grill to rare, rest for 5 minutes, slice and serve ASAP. Crockpots are ok for doing low/slow cooking (though you *should* brown your meat and deglaze the pan into the crockpot rather than just throwing meat in). Tri-tip is much better cooked hot/fast (I like a charcoal grill, but it's hardly the only option) to no more than medium. – Nat Bowman Apr 06 '18 at 20:57
  • Not enough salt. –  Sep 26 '19 at 17:20

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If we're talking about a solid, four pound cut of beef - the only flavor you're ever really going to get is on the exterior and just a little bit into the interior of the meat.

That said, cooking in the spices/components you list still may provide liquid gold. I would simply take some of the liquid that's leftover in the slow cooker after the roast has cooked and make a gravy out of it. You'll get the flavors you put in and have something to sauce the interior of the meat - that have been flavored with the juices of the meat as well.

Otherwise, if you're looking to 'infuse' more flavor into the beef itself, you'll need to consider something like a stew rather than a whole cut.

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    I like your suggestion about making a gravy from the leftover liquid to sauce the interior of the meat. Sounds wonderful! Thank you for that suggestion. :) – Penny B Mar 07 '14 at 06:50
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We walked in the door and the delicious aroma filled the whole house.

This is actually a strong hint as to what might be going wrong. Whenever you smell a delicious aroma during cooking, that's aromatic compounds that would otherwise add lots of flavor being lost to the air. When simmering a sauce, for example, it's not just water that is boiling away. If it was, you wouldn't smell that delicious aroma.

The higher the cooking temperature, the more of these flavorful aromatics will be lost. It's for this reason that many recipes recommend reducing sauces on as low a simmer as possible.

The smaller and lighter those [aromatic] compounds are, the more likely they are to jump out of the pot with the evaporating water and float off into the air.

J. Kenji López-Alt, Ask the Food Lab: Do I Really Need To Reduce Wine Separately?

It seems like the chemistry behind all this isn't really that well understood, but experimenting with two pots (of stock, for example) cooked at different temperatures and tasting the difference proves it to be true.

In summary: try cooking at a slower temperature for longer. An alternative to this would be to use a pressure cooker. The cooking temperature will be higher (thus reducing the length of time needed) but due to the pressure cooker being a sealed container, the aroma compounds aren't lost to the air.

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  • It's in a crockpot, so it's already long and slow – rfusca Mar 08 '14 at 13:38
  • I'm not sure knowing it's being done in a crockpot alone means we can know it's being cooked long and slow. – jcorcoran Mar 08 '14 at 13:41
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    I guess so but it would be unusual to use a slow cooker for not cooking slow – rfusca Mar 08 '14 at 13:42
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    (Although I do think a sealed Dutch oven in a 200 degree oven is a far better method of slow cooking) – rfusca Mar 08 '14 at 13:44
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    Apologies - I've just googled crockpot and it's not what I thought it was. Indeed, it's probably being slow cooked. Still, the points still stand, at least as something to give some consideration to. – jcorcoran Mar 08 '14 at 13:45
  • Thank you for all the good input! My roast was cooked long and slow in my crockpot. I have great fear of pressure cookers because of the horrible accidents they have caused in my family. I know they have been greatly improved but, when they malfunction, they are very dangerous. This is true of any appliance, I realize, but having seen what a pressure can do, I am very afraid of them. – Penny B Mar 09 '14 at 13:51
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I had the same problem for months. My final solution was to beat up the roast a bit before I put in the slow cooker, and occasionally stab a few holes in the roast so the tasty liquids can get inside. I also reuse the left over liquid as a gravy. Presentation wise the roast looks like it got hit by a truck, but who cares when every bite is juicy and tasty.

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Also consider that long exposure to heat actually removes the flavour from a lot of herbs and spices that really need to be added at the or near the end of the cooking.

You could try infusing flavour into the meat with a syringe, or making sure to sear the entire outside very well prior to placing the roast into the slow cooker.

Also, proper seasoning (salt and pepper) goes a long ways to bringing out natural flavour in meat.

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When you cook the meat in a closed dish then lots of liquid comes out. I have trouble understanding how flavour can enter the meat when cooking is extracting the liquid. Injecting the meat with a flavour (herbs etc) seems likely to be the only way of getting flavour in (unless you consider vacuum extracting moisture and then adding it back with flavour added?

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I had the same problem. This is what I did. I took my already cooked rump roast, shredded the meat, melted some better over medium heat in a large pan. I added the shredded meat and a few splashes of broth from a beef bouillon cube. (just enough to moisten.) Then I seasoned it with garlic powder, salt, pepper, meat tenderizer, and Mrs. Dash table blend. Then I stirred the mixture and let it heat thoroughly til the meat soaked up the broth. Hope this helped.

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It probably does not have anything to do with you or your method of cooking if the flavor problem is isolated or infrequent. The problem is likely the meat. I cook roast the same way every time and it is usually excellent with a robust beef flavor. Unfortunately, every once in a while, the meat is flavorless. It usually seems to come from grocery store beef on sale, even choice graded roasts that look great. I have noticed that dark beef (not bloody) has a more robust beefy flavor than light colored bright red beef. I have had the same experience with ground beef.

One time I made some meatballs with ground chuck from a meat market. They were fantastic. My wife's brother begged me to make them again the following week. I went to the grocery store and picked some ground chuck and made the meatballs the same way. They came out flavorless and my brother in law was so disappointed as was I. After experimenting over the next few years, I discovered it was the poor quality of meat from the particular grocery store that I purchased the meat from.

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I realize this is an old question, but I must have missed it. If you want your roast to have internal goodness (I.e. From the juices in the Dutch oven or marinade) you need to perferate the meat.

You can use an ice pick to do this. On the cutting board, make a grid of holes about 1 inch (or 2cm) apart. This allows the juices or marinade to reach the interior.

Little secret here. Celery juice is a natural nitrifier, which makes meats taste OMG delicious. If you take a whole celery heart and food process it into slush and then use a Baster to inject the celery juice into the ice pick holes you will have an amazing end product.

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marinade your whole roast over night in the liquid my roast come out full of flavor every time I use beef onion soup mix and beef broth

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The very first thing that came to my mind is that you are using too much liquid -- which when evaporates while cooking, emites pleasant odors, but makes the meat over tender.

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I golden brown the roasts after seasoning with steak or roast seasoning. put in oven or crockpot. add a little water, cover and cook until about half way. then I remove while the roast is still firm to cut through, making about 3/4 in slices. lay them back in the broth after tasting the broth and see if it needs more of something. by cutting, the juices will permeate the meat and when you serve, you'll have nice lovely slices. Finish cooking/baking until they are fork tender..oh my! delish :)