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I've prepared a Kiwifruit sauce, adding also some sugar and honey.

I was wondering - is there a way to make it less sour, that is not increasing the sugar and honey content?

The recipe was:

  • 4 Kiwifruit, ripe
  • 2 tbsp honey
  • 1 tbsp sugar
  • 1 tsp cornstarch
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  • Please post the recipe you used. – lemontwist Jan 03 '13 at 16:39
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    Also, did you use ripe or slightly unripe kiwis? When they're ripe kiwis are much sweeter and less sour than unripe kiwis. – lemontwist Jan 03 '13 at 16:39
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    @lemontwist, Kiwis are people whom live in New Zealand, you want Kiwifruit – TFD Jan 03 '13 at 22:14
  • @TFD :-) At least here in the US, we call you folks "New Zealanders", and the fruit are simply kiwis most of the time. Plus, I thought a *kiwi* was a flightless bird. :-) – SAJ14SAJ Jan 03 '13 at 22:40
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    @SAJ14SAJ SA is global though! The Kiwi bird is a cousin 50 million year ago from an Australian miniature Emu, how did it get to New Zealand then? – TFD Jan 03 '13 at 23:04
  • @TFD I am surprised you have to ask. The answer is obvious: on a kiwiwood raft. – SAJ14SAJ Jan 03 '13 at 23:11
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    @SAJ14SAJ They flew in on the totally awesome plane http://www.airlinereporter.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/1.jpg – TFD Jan 04 '13 at 01:29
  • Do Australians cook and eat New Zealanders? Is that why there are now more sheep than people in NZ? – Nick T May 29 '17 at 17:24
  • This is an answer I don't dare to post, because it's untested and possibly controversial: a pinch of baking soda. – gboffi Dec 24 '22 at 13:36

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I made a sauce using the ingredient ratios specified in the question. The sweet and sour in this sauce actually balanced each other and I thought this might invalidate any experiments until I considered that they also dominated the flavour of the sauce. In other words the sauce was a little too tangy (or tart if you prefer).

For the purposes of this answer, I'll make the following distinctions:

  • sour: A taste where there is not enough sweetness to balance the acidic notes;
  • tangy: A taste where sweet and acidic notes are balanced;
  • tart: A taste that is tangy, but the sweet and acidic notes together dominate flavour.

Note that I don't suggest that this is the accepted nomenclature. I think it is possible that the OP confounded sour with tart which may explain the specification of no additional sugar in the question.

Colour as a sweetener

As the Wikipedia article on Sweetness says,

The color of food can affect sweetness perception. Adding more red color to a drink increases its perceived sweetness with darker colored solutions being rated 2–10% higher than lighter ones even though it had 1% less sucrose concentration.

The colour of this sauce became much duller during cooking, so I tested the effect on taste of using a green food dye. I didn't notice any difference in a side-by-side taste-test, even though the sauce with food dye did look much nicer,

food dye experiment 1

I did one more test adding more dye and this time, to my surprise, the sauce with the more vibrant colour tasted very slightly, but nevertheless distinctly sweeter than the original.

food dye experiment 2

I didn't quite believe this, so I taste tested this several times with the same result.

This led me to suspect the food dye itself and, sure enough, it tasted sweet due to an amount of glycerol in the ingredients. Despite invalidating my experiment, glycerol is neither sugar nor honey and as such answers the OP's question directly (if indeed the sauce was sour and needed sweetening). Adding to that the fact that the sauce now looks more appetising, I can recommend using green food dye whether or not colour has any effect on taste.

Salt

I also tested the suggestion of another poster, where salt is used to sweeten the sauce. I didn't hold out much hope for this technique, having experimented with salt on all manner of fruits a couple of days back.

Once again, I was surprised. Salt made a positive difference, although this time the sauce was no sweeter than before. Quite the opposite; sweetness was reduced (which is consistent with my earlier experiments). The sour note was also reduced, so sweet and sour were still balanced leaving the sauce tangy but not tart.

I adding a pinch more salt and now the salty taste came through and ruined the sauce.

I recommend adding salt if the sauce is similar to mine and excessively tart rather than actually sour. It is easy to overstep the mark when adding salt. I suggest making a little more sauce than actually necessary and putting an amount aside before adding the salt so that you can re-introduce some if you do go overboard.

Dilution

Finally I tested the advice to thin-out the sauce with water. This was the least promising result and it seems to me that sweetness disappeared faster than the sour taste. I tried various dilutions, but nothing compared well to the original and flavour was lost.

Possibly this could work if you dilute the sauce with something more flavourful than water, but I would recommend the other two methods over this if you want to stay true to the original recipe.

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  • Awesome answer. Yes, the terminology you used is definitively more precise, and appropriate. – Marcus Jan 09 '13 at 21:45
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Salt will help make the fruit taste sweeter. Salt also makes food taste less bitter and will most likely help reduce the apparent sourness, too.

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    Salt will only make fruit taste sweeter if it is already sweet. Here's an experiment I tried with two glasses of dilute lime juice. I added enough sugar so that the mixture was just a little too sour. I added a very small amount of salt to one glass, stirred until disolved and tasted. The glass containing salt was noticeably more sour. I tried the same experiment using cocoa and too little sugar which confirmed that salt does in fact reduce perceived bitterness. – Chris Steinbach Jan 03 '13 at 21:51
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    Kiwifruit typically has more sugar content than grapefruit, which is typically 'made sweeter' with a touch of salt. It is certainly much sweeter than lime juice; kiwifruit averages over 8 grams of sugar where the same amount of lime juice (as in your example) averages just over 1.5 grams. http://ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/foods/show/2271?fg=&man=&lfacet=&format=&count=&max=25&offset=&sort=&qlookup=kiwifruit http://ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/foods/show/2279?fg=&man=&lfacet=&format=&count=&max=25&offset=&sort=&qlookup=lime – Fisher Jan 04 '13 at 19:13
  • I don't have a grapefruit handy to test, but I think this could be an interesting discussion, so I'll throw it open to the community. What I understand is that salt acts as a flavour enhancer (except for bitterness). If a food stuff is predominantly sour it will accentuate that aspect, no matter what the sugar content is. If it is predominantly sweet, it will seem sweeter. – Chris Steinbach Jan 04 '13 at 20:19
  • Posted [a new question](http://cooking.stackexchange.com/q/29730/1549) as I mentioned. – Chris Steinbach Jan 04 '13 at 21:02
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The answer lies in the kiwi. Choose a ripe kiwi - they are typically sweeter.

Another option you may want to do is to dilute your existing sauce with water and add more cornstarch.

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I actually made a fruit sauce with some very small plums from a tree on my property. I added a lot of sugar and honey and it was still tart, so I added a little salt, which cut the tartness a bit. I'm afraid to add too much salt but still gave a lot of tartness. I'll let it sit and cool overnight and then retaste.

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