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After much experimentation with reverse spherification this weekend, I completely failed to get an acceptable product. Caviar didn't form properly. In particular, when dropped from an eye dropper, the drops would not penetrate the bath and so did not form proper spheres. The height I dropped from made no difference on the effect. I also had issues with my spheres glomming together in to a single mass if they touched.

I used a 0.5% sodium alginate bath with room temperature Dasani bottled water (which makes no mention of any sort of calcium on the label). I did a 2.5% Calcium Lactate Gluconate in to Peach Looza. I also tried a 0.5% Calcium Chloride solution with the Peach Looza. I tried thickening the peach juice with 0.5% Xanthan gum, but that didn't seem to make a difference.

The gelling process was working, and was fine if I placed the peach in the bath slowly, but I found it impossible to make small caviar with an eye dropper as the peach just sat at the surface. Once they did eventually sink, if there were multiple spheres, they would form a single mass as soon as they touched.

Any suggestions to fix these issues? I wanted to make a large amount and then hold for service, but I was unable to make any at all, really.

yossarian
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    I know little about this kind of thing, but as it happens I saw someone doing this on TV not long ago - I believe they simply put the dropper into the bath itself, rather than dropping it from above. – ElendilTheTall May 03 '11 at 18:31
  • @Elendil, I did that and it worked, but was way too slow to do the volume that I need. And then they stuck together if two touched... – yossarian May 03 '11 at 18:37
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    What you need is the kind of thing they have in DNA labs, one of those syringes with one plunger but multiple nozzles. You might be able to get one from a medical supply company. – ElendilTheTall May 03 '11 at 19:28
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    Apparently there is calcium in Dasani: http://urparamount.com/articles/DasaniRecall/coca-cola-recalls-dasani-bottled-water.html . That easily could be your problem. – Michael Natkin May 03 '11 at 21:06
  • @Michael, they only do that in the UK. They do not add it in the US (where I am). – yossarian May 03 '11 at 21:14
  • Ah, interesting. Hmm, maybe you have a lot of air in the caviar solution, making them buoyant? If you have a vacuum sealer you could use it to evacuate bubbles before making the drops. – Michael Natkin May 04 '11 at 18:10
  • @Michael, because the calcium is so soluble, I had no trouble mixing it in with a fork. There was little aeration of the caviar solution. I also tried the experiment over the course of two days, so it had at least 24 hours to rest as well. – yossarian May 04 '11 at 18:25
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    Well, as a last resort, try adding some Plutonium (or anything from the lanthanide series). That will make it a lot denser and it should sink. – Michael Natkin May 04 '11 at 20:07
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    @michael, added bonus, it will glow for some cool presentation options! – yossarian May 04 '11 at 21:22

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I don't have direct experience of this concept, but I do have a couple of comments that might help.

A general comment about your choice of calcium salt:

Gluconates have a side effect - they numb mouth tissue (like taste buds). It is not a drastic effect, but that is why gluconates are the salts of choice for that stuff you put on mouth ulcers ...

I just don't like the idea of eating calcium chloride - I think I would prefer calcium acetate, if you can get it.

About the alginate bath - if the globules eventually sank to the bottom, you are fighting a surface effect, rather than having a density problem.

When I thought of ways to reduce the surface tension, I kept coming back to the idea of adding a little disodium phosphate to the alginate solution. That would also contribute to formation of globules, because it would form an insoluble complex phosphate with the calcium.

WTH, knowing my luck, adding disodium phosphate to the alginate solution could make the effect worse. I'm guessing ...

There is the consideration that, if there is calcium in your water, adding a little disodium phosphate the night before you use it will cause the calcium to precipitate and drop out of the water - then you can pour off the supernatant water, confident that the calcium is staying in the bottle.

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If the liquid is not sinking try adding something to make it heavier. Sugar should work. just like trying to get drinks with layers they need to be of different densities.

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