Pedro de Mena, _Ecce Homo_ and _Mater Dolorosa_ , c.1674-85, partial-gilt polychrome wood, probably from Malaga, Spain, Ecce Homo: 62.9 x 45.1 x 46.7 cm, Mater Dolorosa: 63 x 58.7 x 38.1 cm (The Metropolitan Museum of Art) A conversation between Dr. Lauren Kilroy-Ewbank and Dr. Beth Harris
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